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Gaja
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15 Mar 2006 01:25:45 GMT Report for Abuse
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Thank you Hellogoobye for your response.
I genuinely feel that Sri Lanka needs a combination of both systems - merit as well as proportional basis (voting system) - not only down South but more so in the North these days.
That example of the Chinese-Australian medical couple is a good indicator of the merit base gone wrong. The right way to get the merit base right is through the subjects that are mandatory for the course. Now most of the Universities in New South Wales recruit for medical faculty through a combination of academic achievement and interview system - which is subjective. I know of Tamil students who could not get into medical colleges in Victoria but were able to get entry into the New South Wales system. This was before they changed theirs to include the interview process under the leadership of Professor Bruce Dowton - the best boss I ever worked with.
There is merit in not using the merit base fully. This is because the university seat represents the work and sacrifices of all of us through our common pool of resources. The students must reflect those common values and not carry them away once they qualify. Most economic migrants do pay high taxes but when you take into account the time over which taxes were paid to create that university seat - their higher ownership value to common resources is not as clear. The contribution made by Australian elders - especially when they were struggling to make a name for themselves in the international community - must be respected and valued. Those who value their family ancestors will automatically know to value their community and society ancestors.
But it is hard to explain all this to young ones who genuinely believe in the merit system - as I did when I was a new migrant in Australia. Now I know that there is no such system but is largely a subjective system. So long as that subjective system upholds the TRUTH we will be progressive. Truth can be comfortably expressed through either system.
Migrant graduates tend to work close to their communities because the goodwill from the community is easier to have than from wider society. If the merit base was used indiscriminately, majority Australians who do not relate to their ethnic origins consciously and expressly will miss out on the services of these doctors. Likewise the communities that do not have smart kids. This is why we need a combination of both. There are instances where migrants learn English language like science but with little cultural feelings for the people who gave birth to the language. The old caste system based on one's work - prevented such abuse by promoting the mind connection through respect for the elders. Now we tend to remove the knowledge and claim ownership for the whole. Wonder how many physics graduates actually pay respect to Einstein.
I have heard of Krishnamoorthy - but no I am not a conscious follower of Krishnamoorthy. I do admire Gandhi specifically and identify with much of his work - especially in serving the dysenfranchised. Eventually what we need is inner peace and happiness.
As for giving the physical world another realm, I believe that to connect to other people's minds we must have least physical limitations. Then you actually get into others' minds even though you may not be with them physically. Then their Truth becomes your Truth.
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Edited By - Gaja - 15 Mar 2006 01:41:55 GMT |
Naleen
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15 Mar 2006 02:59:23 GMT Report for Abuse
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Tamilcanuck says: lets grab all the IRCs (Islands Racist Click) and put them in a room and see what happens. I have a feeling magha & Naleen will quickly sign a pact and come after me!!
Tamilcanuck,
I need to give you a lengthy explanation.
Magha belongs to the category of endangered species called SLFPers. I am surprised to find somebody from this category because the numbers are so small, and it is very difficult to find any.
Whether we like it or not today South too is divided into two main political streams.
One side we have JHU/JVP racists, wants Tamils and Catholics/Christians out of the island, closed minds, knows very litte about the outside world, think Anuradhapura is the centre of universe, think Dutugemunu is the mightiest king world ever produced, genuinely believe Ayurveda has medicines to cure cancer and AIDS, knows nothing at all about the modern trends in the world and willling to convert the society into a feadual one given half the chances.
On the other side, we have people like me who do not buy any of those theories. It is a diversified group, and it is easy to term me as UNP, but in my whole life I have never voted for UNP. I voted last time in 1994, and that is for Chandrika, because I believed she would bring peace to the land. However, since country is so clearly divided, and since there is no way I can sit in the JHU/JVP camp, in some issues I have to sit with UNP. That is a problem faced not just by me but even by hardcore Marxasits like Wickramabahu and Sirithunge Jayasuriya. To me UNP is the lesser evil compared to JHU/JVP.
I initially assumed Magha from JHU/JVP camp, but I was wrong. He does not belong to any of the above. He is an SLFPer. (May be he is not in the party, but he follows the same principles.)
I have nothing against SLFPers. As we say here, SLFP is a harmless and useless party. (While UNP is harmful but useful!) They are very innocent people. Even I do not have anything against Motta Raala. The only thing I do not like about him is he has got into JHU/JVP bandwagon. Otherwise he is such a nice fellah. He is not a bad person. (I am serious)
So the bottomline is when compared with you, I always like to sign a pact with Magha at any rate.
Edited By - Naleen - 15 Mar 2006 05:22:04 GMT |
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15 Mar 2006 03:03:10 GMT Report for Abuse
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The unp is the colombo cell of the ltte i have told many a time...
dear sri lankan patriots...the enemy whithin is worse than the enemy seen...
let us chase these unp traitors for good...this story is taken from theacademic.org
UNP politico gifts land to Kadirgamar murder suspect
Munza Mushtaq in Colombo, March 14, 2006, 2.55 p.m.. Investigations have revealed that a top United National Party Colombo Central Politico who is at the centre of a recent commotion in the party had arranged to provide a block of state owned land in Colombo to the suspect who allegedly facilitated the assassination of Foreign Minister Lakshman Kadirgamar, the Weekend Standard newspaper has reported.
The suspect Muttiah Sahadevan alias Devan (Kadirgamar's neighbour's gardener) now in remand was gifted the block of land a few years ago, but investigators said that they were unable to tie up the assassination to the politician who is also a parliamentarian.
Several attempts made by the newspaper to contact the politician to find out on what grounds he had gifted state owned land to this suspect failed.
Security sources also disclosed that the gunmen and others connected to the Kadirgamar killing had fled to the LTTE controlled Vanni, thereby hampering investigations, police said.
Devan, a resident of Mullaitivu had assisted the two LTTE suspects to sneak into the upstairs of the house he was working for, which belonged to Lakshman Thalaisingham, from where they shot the late Foreign Minister.
Kadirgamar was shot on August 12, 2005, by a member of the LTTE sniper gang at his private residence situated in Buller's Lane at Colombo 7, as he was getting out of the swimming pool, where he was shot twice in the head. He was rushed to the National Hospital immediately thereafter, but died as a result of the severity of his wounds |
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15 Mar 2006 04:38:56 GMT Report for Abuse
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Naleen,
You have joined this forum in October 2005 at the time of Presidential elections. I have been contributing to this forum for one year now. I have criticized Singhalese political parties from left to right including SLFP. The only Singhalese politician I have given some credit in my 1500 odd posts is late Mr. N.M. Perera. I have criticized every body including your hero Ranil W. as well as Mahinda R.
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15 Mar 2006 04:52:43 GMT Report for Abuse
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Magha,
I do not say you are officially an SLFPer, but it is obvious you take that line.
You parsing N. M. Perera will only prove that fact. Old SLFP, Old LSSP, CP are the parties which took this line. You are a so-called child of 56, if you know what I mean.
Do you find many people praising NM these days? Do you find many people who have heard about these days? That is why you are in a tiny minority.
By the way, Ranil is not my hero. If I have a hero in UNP, it is only Ranjan Wijeratne. Besides that I appreciate the work done by Lalith, Gamini and even Premadasa but I have criticisms on them too.
Edited By - Naleen - 15 Mar 2006 05:33:57 GMT |
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15 Mar 2006 04:54:32 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear Naleen,
With the exception of a few issues relating to individuals, I also fall into the same category with you. So you have company in the room.
I can be the mediator between you and Magha for the peace pact.
Enjoy the fun and I am proud to be in the group.
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15 Mar 2006 05:19:01 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kula,
As I said I have nothing against Magha or SLFPers. There are so many things we can agree.
However, Magha is in a minority, so one day he has to join one of the two mainstream camps. Given what he has written so far, I am sure he would join us rather than joining JHU/JVP camp. :-)
Edited By - Naleen - 15 Mar 2006 05:24:03 GMT |
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15 Mar 2006 05:45:16 GMT Report for Abuse
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Naleen ,
If I have criticized ,SWRD , Sirima, Chandrika , Anura, and Finally Mahinda in the SLFP where is my SLFP inclination?
I look at certain principles of individuals than party philosophies which basically sucks in every party.
Before you sat for A.L exams I took it an got penalized because of Standardization, before UGC was formed.. But I accepted it, since it also gave a chance for less privileged students who would have scored better if an opportunity is given. Standardization has helped many Tamils out of Jaffna in the East too who were not lucky enough to go good schools.
Depriving students with science education because of unequal socioeconomic standards and make them failures at competitive exams is a shameful act.
The education system of our country as well as any third world country is very far from being perfect but it should not be exploited to further suppress the under privileged class.
BTW one does not have to join any political group to criticize or support any progressive ideas.
Edited By - magha - 15 Mar 2006 05:47:45 GMT |
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Magha ayye,
You said 1979 was your last big match and it was my first. So we were at school together sometime and I know your background. Why you have to be a victim of standardisation to allow someone who scored less to enter into medical college?
Nobody said our education system is perfect, but let us not commit one mistake to correct another. This is what we have been doing all these days.
We find poor people and try to address the problem by giving them Samurdhi benefits. That will not work. The only way you can eradicate poverty is to create jobs for those people. Welfare measures will never take them out of poverty.
Similarly, if our education system is poor, develop the system. Just because our system is poor do not stop any student who deserves the entry to university by allowing someone who scored less taking his/her place.
Do you know in which district in SL the poverty levels are highest? (except N&E) COLOMBO. Why? In the rural areas the cost of living is less and people have enough space to grow their own vegetables etc. Urban power do not get such facilities. Standardisation does no good to these urban poor. They are the very people who suffer from this stupid method.
I can go on discussing this, but why should I waste my time? Quota systems in any country have created more problems than they have addressed. |
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Those who are interested in discussing issues related to education in SL please check the following link.
http://www.educationforum.lk/ |
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