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Let`s celebrate X`mas and defeat evil - JVP
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Mucha-linda
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29 Dec 2006 01:01:28 GMT Report for Abuse
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Current JVP is perhaps the most feudal political party in Sri Lanka. Even with its all ?family trees? SLFP is no as feudal as JVP. (I talk about the present JVP here. It was very different in the time of Wijeweera Sahodarayaa) It is not a coincidence that half of present JVP?s top leaders (Somwansa, Tilvin, Weerawansa and also ex-leader Nandana G) from Kalutara.
I do not denounce the role played by caste ties in Sri Lankan politics across all major political parties (including UNP, in fact UNP is the party that manipulates caste ties in the most clever manner). I am neither submitting to the opinion in the above excerpt, including identifying JVP as a feudal political party as well as the applicability of the very concept feudalism in the Sri Lankan context. There may also be some differences between Wijeweeras JVP and that of Somawanshas. However, one should never forget the role played by the Ambalangoda Factor (or more precisely Ambalangoda Dharmashoka factor) in Wijeweeras 1971 JVP, when making such generalizations.
SB was from a relatively poor family from Hangurankatha but he was not low caste. So he had no inferior complex hard corded in his brain. When he got the opportunity he rose automatically. He just had to cross the class barrier and it was easy. Same with the other two.
I really doubt this. I neither know what SB's caste is NOR will ever submit to such a simple generalization on someone's mental complexes. However, I doubt if he has given such an opportunity in UNP to rise automatically.
-Mucha
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29 Dec 2006 03:03:12 GMT Report for Abuse
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Shakthi,
Those brothers were in fact from two different generations. NH Keerthirathne was MUCH older than Asoka Karunaratne. They left SLFP long time ago and NH quit politics (only to resurface later to contest presidential elections) and Asoka joined the UNP. The reason for Asoka to leave SLFP is as I said earlier, Mrs B offered him a bench cos he is a Padda!! Yes, Asoka won Rambukkana seat at 1997 election and became the minister for social services.
Brothers were not in good terms due to 'Badu cases'!! You know Shakthi, the rumors say that Asoka died 'in action' of a heart attack!
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29 Dec 2006 03:14:40 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mucha,
First, it was shakthi who wrote the piece you quoted, not me. However I agree to that to a certain extent.
One must not forget the class, cultural, racial and wealth diversity of the students of RC. I think that is the only reason RC manage to EXCEL in Sri Lanka as the BEST school.
That does not mean some students acquire some complexes too.
The reason we argue here in this forum is not RC but JVP.
Mucha,
I think we Sinhala people should NOT do the same cardinal mistake of Tamils. More precisely, Educated Tamils (I do not put them as intellectuals).
LTTE and other Tamil militants were originated to fill a certain vaccume of the Tamil politics. LTTE survived and did some wonders to show Tamils that they could fight back.
Rather than use LTTE for the betterment of Tamils, those educated Tamils helped/let/allowed/ or perhaps persuaded LTTE to lead the Tamils.
From that day onwards SL Tamils were doomed.
JVP is no better. We have to use them carefully and GUIDE them intelligently. They are more suitable to be a pressure group rather than to form a government. We should not allow their policies to guide Sri Lanka, but let Sri Lankan aspirations guide their policies!!
Otherwise they will become big for their own shoes and end up like LTTE!!
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29 Dec 2006 03:15:50 GMT Report for Abuse
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Pera,
Prof. A.V. Suraweera is also a Padda (in that case)!!
-Mucha
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29 Dec 2006 03:27:56 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mucha,
Yes, hence the chip in his shoulder...
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29 Dec 2006 03:42:19 GMT Report for Abuse
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Pera,
Prof. A.V. Suraweera is also a Padda (in that case)!!
This guy was one or two years junior to my father at Peradeniya (first batch) I have some books with his signature which he presented to my father.
Till he decided to contest Gampaha electorate in 1994 nobody knew his caste. This became public knowledge only because he played his caste card to win votes. I know some who campaigned for him. They thought this guy would do some work for the country and culture and was totally disappointed the role he played.
(Later his friend K. Jayatilake wrote a novel based on this guy's experiences in politics. It's called 'Warnaya, Chandaya haa Manapaya' One of the few good Sinhala novels written within the last ten years. Worth reading.)
The last time I saw him was at the Presidential house at a meeting hurriedly conveyed by CBK and Tara, just few weeks before she left office. It has to do with education and this guy was also there sitting in the front row though CBK took any care of him. CBK's dog came and lied on his feet and he was caressing the dog with respect, to much of our amusement.
Somebody commented that it was how the people of his caste behave in the walawwas of the aristocrats. (Both him and CBK were from Gampaha district.)
See, if an educated person like A. V. Suraweera could not come out of his caste affiliations, how could one expect much humble Wimal Weerawansa to come out of them?
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Mucha-linda
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29 Dec 2006 03:52:39 GMT Report for Abuse
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Pera,
I have my own reading about JVP and hope you have not misunderstood me by seeing my spontaneous dispositions which are meant to serve different other purposes (like annoying certain individuals etc).
JVP is no better. We have to use them carefully and GUIDE them intelligently. They are more suitable to be a pressure group rather than to form a government. We should not allow their policies to guide Sri Lanka, but let Sri Lankan aspirations guide their policies!!
Pera, I am in no mood to summerize my thoughts about JVP. However, in brief I can guarantee you that I am definetely not a Communist (thanks to Silva). I am neither a capitalist, nor a neo-liberalist, nor a post-modernist (I may be Muchalindist, not sure though). I am also of the view that one of the best things ever happen to JVP is losing Wijeweera (I am no way portraying him as a black figure. He could be a very able person, but he did not deserve to rule SL).
However, the fact is JVP (as well as JHU) plays a vital role in current Sri Lankan politics (in fact I value their presence more at this juncture than the presence of JHU). It is also a fact that there are certain elements with malicious intentions, who want to remove JVP for their (sometimes) personal gains. This should be stopped at any cost.
In case of forming a government, I see JVP with no difference to SLFP or UNP. None of these parties deserve to rule SL (as in the case of majority of Kings we had in the past). But unfortunately we have to live with it. In that sense I am happy to see JVP being influenced by Sri Lankan aspirations while Sri Lankan aspirations being shaped by JVP.
-Mucha
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29 Dec 2006 04:25:54 GMT Report for Abuse
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Pera,
LTTE and other Tamil militants were originated to fill a certain vaccume of the Tamil politics. LTTE survived and did some wonders to show Tamils that they could fight back.
Rather than use LTTE for the betterment of Tamils, those educated Tamils helped/let/allowed/ or perhaps persuaded LTTE to lead the Tamils.
First para, yes. Agreed.
Second para, agreed only to an extent. I hope you remember Amirthalingam's stand on LTTE in early 1980s. While calling them 'boys' he still wanted to have the remote control in his hand. (Which he never did, in fact)
Amir wanted to exploit LTTE. His plan was to show LTTE to Sinhalese polity and say 'See, if you do not want to talk with us (TULF) now, you have to talk with them (LTTE or TSF then) in a different language in future' (which was very correct.)
The problem was Amir never understood once you start a chain reaction (for whatever the purpose) you cannot stop that even if you want. Amir learnt that in the hard way.
For some time thought Motta Raala too did the same mistake in unleashing the JHU and JVP racism purely to win the Presidential election.
Siritunage Jayasuriya warned the danger of not tying the two mad dogs. (pissu ballo) Now I think MR got the message and in his own way controlling the JHU (fully) and JVP (to some extent)
The problem of racism/chauvinism/extremism is it is so illogical it finds the relative moderates in ones own camp is more dangerous than the enemies.
It was not a Muslim who killed Gandhi.
It was not a capitalist who killed Leon Trotsky.
It was not a Christian (or Tamil) who killed SWRD.
It was not Sinhalese who killed Amirthalingam, Neelan Thiruchelvam and Raviraj.
It was not capitalists who killed Vijaya Kumaratunage, Deva Bandara Senaratne or Nadana Marasinghe.
It is good (for his own personal safety) that Motta Raala has learnt from the history.
Those who lie down with dogs have to get up with fleas.
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29 Dec 2006 04:33:57 GMT Report for Abuse
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Pera,
Add to the above post, I am sure you know the role Buddharakkhitha played during the 1956 election. Buddharakkitha to SWRD in 1956, was what Medhananda to MR was in 2005.
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29 Dec 2006 05:15:28 GMT Report for Abuse
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Gents,
I am off for the day. Wish you all a Happy New Year.
-Muchalinda
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