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 20 Nov 2006 04:16:21 GMT Report for Abuse
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Right or wrong there is no doubt that Sangaree is a man of great courage. not many tamils living in sri lanka will dare to go against the ltte. is the ltte right in not tolerating dissent at this juncture of their struggle? who knows. however inadequate the system of democracy is in sri lanka it is ludicrous for the ltte to claim to be the sole representative of the tamils. it is even more ludicrous for the government to accept them as such.
SWRD,
Thank you ,You have broken the ice to have a genuine discussion.
Now, I have been criticized heavily by nada and the co. for posting my thoughts about Anandasangaree.
Let me watch the reaction from them to your post first and I will discuss your questions of your second post. |
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 20 Nov 2006 05:21:27 GMT Report for Abuse
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Magha,
One of the very reason that the Official status of the Tamil language has not been materialized very well is that there aren't enough Tamils to carry out the task and enough Singhalese with knowledge in Tamil language.
You hit the PANIC BUTTON my friend. Truth has to come out.
Priority of employment was favoured for the singhalese and Tamils were not ATLEAST proportionately employed in Govt.institutions.
Singhalese were INDIFFERENT to the requirement of learning Tamil language. When the Govt. makes a decision to make Tamil an official language there should be NO REASON for anybody to say that it is the Tamils who must learn Singhala and not the reverse.
AS A DOCTOR IN SL AT ONE TIME, DID YOU PASS THE TAMIL EXAMINATION??? If not why????
The 51% Tamil speaking comprises 35% of the Muslims who do not know proper Tamil. Their Tamil is BROKEN TAMIL that in a professional sense does not mean anything. Atleast 70% of these 35 % Tamil speaking Muslims are SINGHALA EDUACATED as the system devised by our good old Lady Madam Srimavo who wanted to carve out these Tamil educative community to DECEIVE AND DISCOURAGE THE TAMILS OF ANY PROGRESS.
These Muslims identify themselves as Singhalese and are recognized by the Singhalese as Singhalese too. So ,please do not mix up the composition. Their Tamil is WHAT THE Singhalese refer to AS ANDARA DHEMALA.
You have a long way to go before you convince the Tamils that the GOSL has rectified it's deliberate discrimination of Tamils who tolerated all the mental, physical and emotional agony before they believed in the Youth to revolt against the govt.
Fairplay
PS: one of nieces through my wife's Muslim relationship directly translates SINGHALA INTO TAMIL and we see her relevance to Tamil proficiency as futile. She studied in the Singhala medium and took Tamil as a link language that you explained before. For everyone to understand in a easy way I would say that her Tamil is like saying the following in English.
INSTEAD OF SAYING THAT I ELOPED WITH A GIRL SHE SAYS THAT I JUMPED AND WENT WITH A GIRL. This is the Tamil speaking community that you are talking about and that is not the official language we are talking about. GOSL has failed you and me Magha.
Edited By - Fairplay - 20 Nov 2006 05:38:10 GMT |
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 20 Nov 2006 05:50:23 GMT Report for Abuse
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Fairplay,
You have a long way to go before you convince the Tamils that the GOSL has rectified it's deliberate discrimination of Tamils who tolerated all the mental, physical and emotional agony before they believed in the Youth to revolt against the govt.
From the outset I have been emphasising that Magha is just trying to theorotise the issues including even very important sensitive issues. He has some theoretical knowledge only and trying to come out with sophisticated theories without any hands-on experience or mindful of the ground realities.
Even his professional experience, according to his very words, is minimal in SL. He is just writing or arguing for the sake of doing SO and he does not expect any outcome, good or bad.
This is one important reason why we remain friends and I don't get angry with him.He is a novice and anxious to contribute something, does not mind what they mean, and he has all the right to use this forum for that exercise.
For him the feelings of the Tamils after all these years of turmoil and suffering are just a little unresolved issues owing to the 'BLUNDER OF THE TAMILS'! Can you imagine that?
He even accuses me of remembering the repeated riots against the Tamils and trying to score some thing out of that. I don't blame him for that but this is the depth of his understanding!
His belief is that Tamils have to be a feeling less, dumb morons and he should have the honour of expressing sympathies for them(Tamils)for their (Tamils) blunders.
THE VILLAINS ARE THE TAMILS - WELL DONE MAGHA. |
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20 Nov 2006 05:52:55 GMT Report for Abuse
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Hi Nada,
Thank you for some input. I see that Magha is trying to convince the Tamils of the REVOLT by Tamils is a futile effort. In turn I see that he cannot convince a single Tamil other than those who have voluntarily joined the GOSL for personal survival.
Magha has got his facts and figures from a wrong source I believe. He wants to establish a point though repeatedly missing his target.
I am sure that he will be successful when LTTE makes a UDI.
ALREADY MAHINDA HAS ORDERED REOPENING OF A9 FEW DAYS BEFORE CO-CHAIRS MEETING. He thinks that he can out smart the IC. He may be thinking of the IC as his electorate..ha..ha..ha.
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 21 Nov 2006 20:59:21 GMT Report for Abuse
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This award was recomended by GOSL for sleeping in the parliment for long years and for his anti-LTTE statements
keep shuting his mouth while so many innocent tamils were
killed and raped by terrorist SL forces....Bravo...Throkith
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magha
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23 Nov 2006 01:01:04 GMT Report for Abuse
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Priority of employment was favoured for the singhalese and Tamils were not ATLEAST proportionately employed in Govt.institutions.
Tamils were disproportionaly given government jobs for probably more than 200 years from British occupation to mid seventies. How many Tamil permanent secretaries Premadasa had during his time, Five.
Fairplay how did you being a Tamil selected to the Army as an officer Cadet? Is it by qualification ,privilege , or politics?
AS A DOCTOR IN SL AT ONE TIME, DID YOU PASS THE TAMIL EXAMINATION??? If not why????
I did not have an opportunity to learn Tamil properly to sit for an exam. Started to learn from here and there ,learn to count, ask few questions in Tamil but totally not helpful and inadequate. Had I remained in the country I could have accomplished the task of learning Tamil. |
magha
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23 Nov 2006 01:12:09 GMT Report for Abuse
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These Muslims identify themselves as Singhalese and are recognized by the Singhalese as Singhalese too. So ,please do not mix up the composition. Their Tamil is WHAT THE Singhalese refer to AS ANDARA DHEMALA.
If these Muslims identify them selves as Signhalese, then how you guys trying to make North and East one Tamil Eelam?
This is the Tamil speaking community that you are talking about and that is not the official language we are talking about. GOSL has failed you and me Magha.
Well , when Tamil was made an official language and Tamil showed apathy towards it not making hay while the Sun shines because of a Tamil Eelam dream , then Tamils had entered in to a vicious cycle of perpetual failure to establish Tamil rights. |
magha
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23 Nov 2006 01:17:44 GMT Report for Abuse
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Your slip is simply showing every time you brand me a LTTEer. But I have nothing to do with the LTTE and yet to even see a member of the LTTE and it is the same with many Tamils.
According to the Buddhist philosophy , a 'Sin' is not only a sinful act but also such thoughts too.
So in that perspective you have become a Tamil who had been contributing to the destruction of the Tamil society over the last 30 years with your strong support to LTTE ,hence you share the same Sin , the LTTE carry. |
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23 Nov 2006 03:57:23 GMT Report for Abuse
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Tamils were disproportionaly given government jobs for probably more than 200 years from British occupation to mid seventies. How many Tamil permanent secretaries Premadasa had during his time, Five.
magha
Are you very sure this is favouritism? couldnt this be just tamils 'following a fashion'? for example if you take the catholic coastal belt of sri lanka most of the people have gone to italy. one goes, the others see his wealth and follow. at one time there would have been a 'cultural fashion' for tamils to enter public service hence they would have worked towards obtaining qualifications to enter such positions. have you got evidence to show that unqualified tamils were favoured over qualified or unqualified singhalease? just saying something does not necessarily make it so if you have no proof.
i know project managers who favour some racial groups (ex Chinese, indians, this in 'white' countries!) over others which has nothing to do with racism. the survival of one's business or timely completion of a project hence ones career, depends on the personnel one selects. They have faith in some racial groups over others.
another thing that is associated with favouritism (or nepotism) is incompetence. have you got evidence or can you prove that the tamils in these positions including the permanent secretaries you mention were incompetent? if not why not accept they were not chosen for anything else other than for their competence? can you honestly say that the post colonial singhalese who occupied these positions ( great malady of much of immediate post colonial asia and africa) were competent in these positions? shouldnt the selection be made on competence?
people have to understand that what is being run (even after independence) is not a native system of government but a colonial 'western' system of government inherited from the colonial masters. How can someone or anyone run it without proper training or understanding?
this is not to play one race against the other but to look at things as they are. |
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