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GamaRaala
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21 Dec 2006 00:19:54 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kula,
I said;
Just like Tamil language and culture originated in Tamil Nadu,
You replied;
The Tamils culture is a part of a wider Dravidian culture, which is now believed to have originated in the Harappan civilization and not just in Tamil Nadu.
Kula, there is no evidence to claim Harappa civilisation was a 'Tamil civilisation'. Nor the Tamil kings ruled the Harappan civilisation. Nor the Harappas spoke a language that uniquely evolved into Tamil language.
By using this style of reasoning, you could also argue that 'Tamil Culture is a part of a WIDER HUMAN (or, ETHIOPIAN) CULTURE believed to have originated in Ethiopia' (because there is a scientific belief that early humans orginated in Ethiopia)! Does this make Ethiopia a Tamil Homeland? Or, does it make 'Tamil culture originated in Ethiopia'? ;-)
No one says today's political boundries of Tamil Nadu are the exact boundries of the homeland that the Tamil Culture orignated historically. The geographic area encompassing Tamil Nadu is the 'Tamil homeland' because Tamil culture and language originated in that Tamil Nadu geographic area, instead of migrating from some other geographic area.
In the same manner, Sinhalese language and culture originated in Sri Lanka. Sinhalese Culture or Language did not orginate in India, as Ariyala_SB is ludicrously arguing.
I said;
To summarise, while Sinhalese script has evolved from Brahmi scripts and has some resemblance to other scripts that also evolved from Brahmi scripts
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The resemblance is much more profound than that. Even though all Indian scripts evolved from Brahmi, they developed through two different traditions viz. Northern and Southern.
Kula, the resemblence you claim 'profound' is nowhere near the level of 'profound' resemblence that Ariyalai_SB is mischievously purporting.
What Ariayalai_SB is saying saying is, people of 'Karalla' could read Sinhalese newspapers without prior knowledge in Sinhala, and then argue this is because Sinhalese orginated in India! So far Ariyalai_SB failed to produce evidence for such 'Karalla' people.
Edited By - GamaRaala - 21 Dec 2006 01:24:54 GMT |
Mucha-linda
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21 Dec 2006 02:40:27 GMT Report for Abuse
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I still stand by both of my points that you pasted in your last post. This attempt of yours, trying to divert the attention has landed you in even deeper hole.
ARIYALAI my friend,
It does not matter if you 'stand by' OR 'sit on' the two statements you said, as long as those have somehow been made. Contradictions ususally speak themselves.
You are a man with a big ego; basically, you do not have the best interest of Sri Lanka at you heart, it is all about your image all along!
I wish you a merry Christmas.
-Muchalinda. |
shelley
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21 Dec 2006 04:12:47 GMT Report for Abuse
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| Hello, i want to know: as an american girl of indian descernt, do i stand a good chance of findign a good sinhalese man and marrying him? I just want a good sinhalesae man to share my love and lfie with, to build a nicee life otgether. |
ThinKing
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21 Dec 2006 04:18:26 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kural,
http://www.tamilnet.com/img/publish/2005/01/kumari_kandam.gif
Where is the 'Kumari Kandam' in this image?
For me ofcourse it's not posible to diffrencite land and sea in that map you have given. Is it's a map of a one block of land with lines marking the future boundaries of land, seas..etc?
if you compare 'Arabian Sea' and 'Sri Lanka', are they both land or sea? |
Kulakottan
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21 Dec 2006 04:28:13 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear Ariyalai,
The evolution of the modern Tamil script had been a gradual process starting from the Southern/Tamil Brahmi in the 3rd century B.C.E. The modern version might have taken shape perhaps in the 13th century.
However, the epigraphist belive that the modern script is still of a round form rather than a squarer or angular form.
I will post a document on my space probably tomorrow when I get a chance to scan a page from the most authoritative book on Tamil Epigraphy by Iravatham Mahadevan.
Kula
Edited By - Kulakottan - 21 Dec 2006 04:48:28 GMT |
ThinKing
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21 Dec 2006 04:33:16 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kula,
What is 'Kumari Kandam'? is it a place? |
Kulakottan
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21 Dec 2006 04:45:24 GMT Report for Abuse
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ThinKing,
There is a legend that due to a Tsunami, what is known in Tamil as 'Kadal koal' about a 3000 or more years ago, part of the sub-continent was merged into the sea.
There are some references in the literary sources to that effect. Part of the ancient port of the Pandiyan Kingdom - Korkai near Madurai too is assumed to have been sub-merged. They also believe that real Lanka of Ravana (Ramayana Epic), too went under the sea. That Lanka is supposed to be many folds bigger than the present Sri lanka. Some Tamil literary sources call that land mass 'Kumari Kandam'.
These are legends but the evidences are primarily in literary sources. There are no solid archaeological evidences to prove them beyond any doubt. Until we get archelogical evidences to prove these, I may enjoy it as a part of literature but not as evidences in Archeology or History.
Kula
Edited By - Kulakottan - 21 Dec 2006 05:04:44 GMT |
Pera
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21 Dec 2006 05:16:50 GMT Report for Abuse
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Gentlemen,
How do you win in this argument?
The older the better or newer the better??
Enlighten me..so I also could chip in and try to argue Sinhala is Older or Newer than Tamil, depending on the way you want....
PERA |
Kulakottan
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21 Dec 2006 05:20:05 GMT Report for Abuse
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Pera,
You can invite Mucha also to this debate!!
BTW Did you do statistics for your degree???
Because they say that there are three kinds of lies:
a lie
a damn lie
Statistics
Cheers
Kula
Edited By - Kulakottan - 21 Dec 2006 05:21:05 GMT |
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