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shelley
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19 Dec 2006 19:34:24 GMT Report for Abuse
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Saervek,
how did you know we indians view you sri lankans as family? also, if God forbid pakistan ever attacked sri lanka, do you think India would step in and help? do you think idnians would protest pakistan attacking sri lanka? |
shelley
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19 Dec 2006 19:36:11 GMT Report for Abuse
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| To any other sri lankas: knowing india's relationship with sri lanka, do you think india would step in and protect sri lanka if pakistan god forbid, ever dared to attack sri lanka? |
KURAL
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19 Dec 2006 22:25:22 GMT Report for Abuse
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Shelley,
Pakistan and Sri lanka , it's a great business (for Pakis). Pakistan is one of the main Sri lankan army's dealer..
And Pakistan like separatism in the Indian subcontinent as it can be a threat for India.
I guess it's why Pakistan offer very cheap prizes to Sri lankan army.
Pakistan know well that more Sri lanka fight separatism more 'big' will be this separatism, it's why they are dealing a lot of arms with Sri lanka ! (But unfortunately it seems that GOSL still don't understood this after 20 years of civil war !!)
If Pakistan can have money and separatism in the subcontinent why not to deal with the stupid Sri lankan state ??
Understanding politics is not a simple affair as 99% of countries are hypocrites and lyers..
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Mucha-linda
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19 Dec 2006 23:08:44 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear AUDIENCE and ARIYALAI,
Muchalinda vehemently denies any allegations that he has misquoted Ariyalai_SB aiming to score a cheap point. However, as he sees no point repeating the same denial again and again, let him re-quote the relevent paragraphs of ARIYALAI_SB so that any readers can find the said contradiction themselves.
On 07/10/2005 ARIYALAI said,
The issue that we are debating here is about Muchalinda and GamaRaala claim that Sinhala Buddhists are the indigenous people of Sri Lanka, and all the others are migrant settlers. *THE TAMILS OF SRI LANKAN DO NOT DISPUTE THAT THEIR ANCESTORS ORIGINATED FROM INDIA*. However, the question is where did the Sinhala Buddhist originate from? This is the question! (7 Oct 2005 21:56:05 GMT , Emphasis added)
http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2005/9/3766_15.html
Two days later (on 12/10/2005) same ARIYALAI wrote Lula,
Sorry for the late response; I got lost in the mids of the debate. Your analysis further substantiates point that we are all same people. *THE NOTION THAT THE TAMILS ARE NOT NATIVE TO SRI LANKA IS LUDICROUS*. The time has come to expose Mucha for what he is, as he is polluting many young Sinhala minds. (12 Oct 2005 20:07:29 GMT, Emphasis added)
http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2005/9/3766_21.html
Note: The above two excerpts are made as it was urged. However, it remains a fact that the opinion of ARIYALAI about the origin of Sinhalas has no bearing over contradictive statement he made about the origins of Tamils. Let Sinhalas have descended from Martians. But, Tamils still cannot be both natives and migrants simultaneously. It is simple as that.
Thank you.
-Muchalinda
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GamaRaala
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20 Dec 2006 00:18:50 GMT Report for Abuse
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The chief theoretician admitted,
'This is because even though we(SL Tamils) are in Eelam, ethnically we(SL Tamils) are Indians.
Our ancient history begins in India.'
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7598_1670664,000500020002.htm
Ariyalai_SB argues 'Ethnic Indians' are native to Sri Lanka ;-) Hiyak-Puh!
'Ethnic Indians' are native to India, where their 'ancient history began'.
Edited By - GamaRaala - 20 Dec 2006 00:21:17 GMT |
Saervek
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20 Dec 2006 06:04:18 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kural,
In anycase, the subsolar point is not always going to be going to be on the equator, it varies with the location of the Earth on it's orbit, between the tropics.
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In equator the sun's ray hit vertically, while in north the sun's ray don't hit vertically (It depends the season)!
Umm no, it doesn't. Since you don't seem have understood the first time, the Subsolar point is that point at which the Sun appears to be directly overhead (i.e. vertical). This point will always travel across the Earth, however it is subject to vertical variation between the Tropic of Cancer and the Tropic of Capricorn. Accordingly, the Sun will NOT always appear directly overhead while on the equator. The exact location of the Subsolar point is dependant on location of the Earth on its orbit.
What Francois Gautier think about the Vedic people ?
What Francois Gautier said about Indians ?
What Francois Gautier NEVER NEGATED ?
I don't know what your trying to say here; your sentence is not coherent.
By the way, it's not Konraad, it's Koenraad. I'm sure your beloved author would appreciate it if you could spell his name properly. Koenraad Elst himself is, I believe a Catholic, however, again much of his work deals with Hindu Nationalism, and this is the point I was making, the authors that you quoted as providing a 'true history of India' either have produced Hindu Nationalist work or are themselves believers of Hindutva. Personally I couldn't care less as to whether they are nationalists or advocate surrender to Pakistan, the point here is that you can't expect them to be neutral enough to provide a 'true history'. As for Alain Danielou, well he is himself a Hindu (certainly remaining a Catholic probably wasn't an option), so I will leave it to the reader to judge his neutrality.
Don't give me the links, thanks !
I'm sure you don't want links, it's hard to make random assertions when the facts are staring you in the face.
it's SURELY and certainly the reason why you paint Gautier and Frawley as 'Hindutva agents' !!
I don't need to paint them as anything, their work, words and attitude do all the painting for me. Moreover, my point wasn't about or against Hindutva, it was that you cannot expect proponents of Hindutva theory to provide an unbiased 'true history' as you stated, for obvious reasons. |
Saervek
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20 Dec 2006 06:30:12 GMT Report for Abuse
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Shelley,
Generally, politics in Tamil Nadu, and the resulting pressure on the Indian Central Government makes Sri Lankans nervous, because they are forever calling interference in Sri Lankan internal affairs. Indeed, the Tamil Nadu factor remains the largest sore in Indo-Lankan relations. While the internal conflict remains, and while certain TN politicians (Vaiko et al) insist on rattling their sabres over it for political mileage, complete normalisation of relations probably won't happen. A second problem has been the Indian Government's propensity to treat Sri Lanka as its appendage since Independence. India's relations with all it's neighbours have been extremely poor because of high-handed tactics like these.
All this means it far more likely that Pakistan would come to the rescue if India were to invade Sri Lanka. For one thing, the Pakistanis have neither the capability nor any need to invade Sri Lanka, whereas the Indian leadership have been prone to making hostile displays whenever they felt Sri Lanka was falling out of step. The Gandhi era (both of them) stand out as an example. Relations with Pakistan on the other hand have always been close, because there was never any factor poisoning the relationship, like there is with India.
I stress though, that the problems are political, I don't think the average Sri Lankan has any problem with the average Indian, and vice versa. |
Shakti
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20 Dec 2006 06:55:47 GMT Report for Abuse
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Both avatars went to vacation together.
Now both avatars are back.
Guys, have a nice time.
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Edited By - Shakti - 20 Dec 2006 07:07:38 GMT |
Shakti
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20 Dec 2006 07:06:09 GMT Report for Abuse
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So far, Ariyalai_SB failed to point out which Malayali and Telungu speakers, known to Ariyalai_SB, can read Sinhala without prior knowledge
It is much better people who know very little about the connections between Malayalam culture with Sinhalese and Tamil cultures do some research before showing their ignorance.
There was a very comprehensive discussion on the subject 'Thomians beat Royal Glory thread' sometime back. If any one interested please refer that. (it might be a bit difficult to find it given the length of the thread,)
BOTH Sinhala and Tamil cultures have been profoundly enriched by the Malayalam culture.
Of course, Nalin De Silva knows nothing about it, so his golayaas are forgiven for the ignorance.
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Ariyalai_SB
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20 Dec 2006 08:13:57 GMT Report for Abuse
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Shakti,
Thanks for your input; there is no point in debating with this Raala fellow.
Malayalam/Sinhala/Tamil: you said it well; this subject has been debated a few times, and all they are doing is cherry picking.
Mucha yet again dodged the point! It is appropriate that his claim is that he follows a scholarly approach, but not actually a scholar! |
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