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GamaRaala
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8 Dec 2006 07:36:17 GMT Report for Abuse
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LULA,
You said,
Which chronicles say that the earliest Brahmi found in numerous stone inscriptions and the early Prakrit in Sri Lanka is Early Sinhalese?
Karthigesu Indrapala said, (1965)
The language of the gold plate inscription from Vallipuram, the earliest epigraphic record discovered in the Jffna peninsula, is the early form of Sinhalese, in which inscriptions of the time in other parts of the island were written.
LULA, it is not just the script, but the words and the language are of early Sinhalese, not Tamil.
Mister, since you fail to quote any EVIDENCE that is supposedly has emerged during last 4 decade to counter the above assertion, don't forget to 'Yoga Laugh death cry', as you have been doing all along. ;-)
In fact, Muchalinda explained this in detail to MURU in this very thread.
MURU asked,
Are those words (*Bujameni*, *Amethi*, *Vihara*, *Karithe*) ONLY found in Sinhala-Prakit? Are those words not also found throughout India in other Prakit inscriptions and writings?
Muchalinda explained,
YES. Especially the word Bujameni is a unique case. Bujameni (or Bujami or Buja in general) is a word that can be found solely in Sinhala Prakrit inscriptions. This word means a ruler, ruling, governor depends on the context it is used. If I my memory is correct, this very word has also been found among Sigiriya Mirror Wall writings.
MURU asked,
More importantly, is this language Sinhala or is it Prakit?
Muchalinda explained,
If we forget the Naming Convention for a moment, what I can say is that this was the language spoken by a group of people whose modern day descendents identify themselves as Sinhalas. This is also NOT the language spoken by the people whose modern day descendents identify themselves as Tamils.
We can argue if we should call Neanderthal a Neanderthal or a Pig. However, it remains a fact that it is the descendent of this *being* which to day identify themselves as Homo sapiens.
Edited By - GamaRaala - 8 Dec 2006 07:59:48 GMT |
Ariyalai_SB
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8 Dec 2006 17:53:08 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mucha.
I said:
Mucha is well known on these forums for cherry picking and quoting people out of context!
I still stand by this. You made it look like that, as per me, only the Sri Lankan Tamils originated from India! You did not quote the full paragraph so that the audience were privy to what I really mentioned. Does it not amount to knowingly misleading the people to score a point?
You accused me of being fooled by the Krishna fanatics; ok, I admit that I was foolish. However, I did not knowingly mislead the audience; I believed what I was saying was authentic. Do you now see the difference!
Ariyalai, you know very well the answer I gave to the above no matter you agree to that or not. You are well aware of our answer that Sinhalas are not a migrated lot, but a group of people with a unique culture that originated within the island mainly through the assimilation of Vijayan migrants with the Hela Tribes like Yakshas, Nagas etc. Cant you remember, you have even criticized that.
Mucha, no matter how much you try, you cannot get away from the truth that peoples of Sri Lanka, religions, cultures, and languages are originated from India. You have been denying this basic truth in order for you to harbour this destructive superiority complex.
I am an atheist; I researched on the net about Yakshas and Nagas etc; nothing has convinced me to believe that they really existed. I know that those tribes that worshiped Nagam were called Nagars. E.g. Nagar Kovils and Naga Pattinam etc. However, there is no evidence to suggest that the Singalese had any connection.
Apart from Mahavamsa, can you provide any evidence to prove this claim? I have asked LuLa to provide information about Naga; if I were to find that I am wrong, I will be ready to accept, unlike you!
In my last post, I quoted from my previous posts, in order to demonstrate that you knowingly misquoted me, and had no hidden agenda.
If one searches on the net about Yaksha, Naga, Raksha and Deva, one would find some hilarious myths
I still stand by this statement until I see more information.
Mucha, you are not a fool, but a calculated chauvinist! |
LuLa
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8 Dec 2006 19:08:08 GMT Report for Abuse
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Gama,
Yet, you 'independently' came up with the same name to assist pronunciation of Mucha?
I did not 'independently' come up, I have heard many Tamils pronouncing the name as TN Theesan. I NEVER said he was a Tamil because there is no evidence to prove that claim.
Tomorrow, if a group of Sinhalese, Tamils and Muslims join together and form a new ethnic group and follow a new religion, culture and language not spoken anywhere else in the world, then they become natives.
All what you have written is crap, just a waste of web space. |
GamaRaala
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8 Dec 2006 21:12:32 GMT Report for Abuse
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LULA,
Tomorrow, if a group of Sinhalese, Tamils and Muslims join together and form a new ethnic group and follow a new religion, culture and language not spoken anywhere else in the world, then they become natives.
Exactly! This new culture becomes native to Sri Lanka. (This new native culture does not have a kingdom; the kingdom is already ruled by the Sinhalese culture)
On other hand, if they follow a religion, culture and language from Tamil Nadu, they become a 'migrant culture'.
It is the assimilation of pre-Sinhala native groups resulted in the origination of the Sinhalese Ethnic that is native to Sri Lanka. This Sinhalese Ethnic subsequently built the Kingdom and have been ruling it for 2,500 years. No other group, be it 'Demada' from India or Portuguese, Dutch or English from Europe have any legitimate right to the Sinhalese Kingdom.
All what you have written is crap, just a waste of web space.
Mister, what is crap what exactly Eelamists like you are coughing out in Web Space, ranging from distorting 'Devanampiya' to 'Theva Nambiya' and 'Tissa' to 'Theesan' without any historical evidence whatsoever. The crap is to try to impart 'nativity' to the Tamil Culture that originated in India ;-)
If Tamil culture originated in Tamil Nadu, then Tamil culture is native to Tamil Nadu, not to its neighbors like Karnataka or Andrapradesh or Sri Lanka ;-)
Edited By - GamaRaala - 8 Dec 2006 22:39:22 GMT |
GamaRaala
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8 Dec 2006 21:21:56 GMT Report for Abuse
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Ariyalai_SB,
Mucha, no matter how much you try, you cannot get away from the truth that peoples of Sri Lanka, religions, cultures, and languages are originated from India.
You have been denying this basic truth in order for you to harbour this destructive superiority complex.
So, Ariyalai_SB's 'BASIC TRUTH' is that the Sinhalese have a traditional homeland in India? ;-) That must be right, the people of 'Sinhala Nadu' state of India to date speak the Sinhalese Language, just like the people of Tamil Nadu speak the Tamil Language.
Tamil Nadu state is the Tamil Homeland, 'Sinhala Nadu' state must be the Sinhala homeland ;-)
Edited By - GamaRaala - 8 Dec 2006 22:56:16 GMT |
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8 Dec 2006 22:00:37 GMT Report for Abuse
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GamaRaala,
Sinhalas are bastardized Tamils ! How Viyaja should have rapped all these Tamil women ?! |
shan
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8 Dec 2006 23:05:01 GMT Report for Abuse
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What about yoga once more.
Was Buddha born in Mihintale? Some one is stripping himself off on the middle of the road. For south if some one want to speak Tamil it may be a migrant language for the natives depends on what they prefer either SL Tamil or Indian Tamil. For the NE it wont be a migrant language for a known histroy. So far no one has come out with any simple evidence to prove their point of mass migration Tamils and displacement of Sinhalese from NE. There was no history of active Tamilisation of Sinhalease by any donkey either. If it was the case history would tell these events in black and white. Because SL is an island it is not mandatory to have one language from KKS to Galle. SL Tamil borders are NE. Mark it, it is SL Tamils. |
LuLa
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9 Dec 2006 02:35:15 GMT Report for Abuse
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Exactly! This new culture becomes native to Sri Lanka. On other hand, if they follow a religion, culture and language from Tamil Nadu, they become a 'migrant culture'.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, He, he, he, he, he, Hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, Hooo, hoo, ho, ho, ho.
You made my day one more time. Great JOKE, keep it up, please continue to entertain us. You have turned into one of the best forum jesters. We need some clowns like you in this forum to make us laugh from time to time.
Thanks for all your jokes. |
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9 Dec 2006 02:56:34 GMT Report for Abuse
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Lula
The famous Indian scholar Buddhaghosa described 5th century Lanka, and its language. |
GamaRaala
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9 Dec 2006 03:27:01 GMT Report for Abuse
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LULA,
I said:
Exactly! This new culture becomes native to Sri Lanka. On other hand, if they follow a religion, culture and language from Tamil Nadu, they become a 'migrant culture'.
You replied with the death cry;
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, He, he, he, he, he, Hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, Hooo, hoo, ho, ho, ho. ...
That is why Tamils and Hindus (and Sinhalese and Muslims and Buddhists) are not treated native cultures in Canda/USA/UK/England.
See, any native Anglo Christian group can follow Tamil Hindu culture in England from tomorrow, but that does not make the Tamil Hindu culture 'native' to England.
If Tamil culture originated in Tamil Nadu, then Tamil culture is native to Tamil Nadu, not to its neighbors like Karnataka or Andrapradesh or Sri Lanka or even ENGLAND;-)
You made my day one more time. Great JOKE, keep it up, please continue to entertain us....
Mister, repeating that GamaRaala and Mucha-Linda are Modayas and Jokers does not make us Modayas or Jokers. The only thing that could make us Modayas and Jokers is to come up with a solid, coherent argument to defeat us.
Instead, what you have so far came up was the self-destructing, suicidal arguments like 'Tamil culture originated in India, but it is also native to Sri Lanka'.
If Tamil culture originated in Tamil Nadu, then Tamil culture is native to Tamil Nadu, not to its neighbors like Karnataka or Andrapradesh or Sri Lanka or even ENGLAND;-)
Just putting up your Yoga Laugh/death cry will only make yourself a Modaya and Joker. ;-) So, feel free.
Edited By - GamaRaala - 9 Dec 2006 03:30:51 GMT |
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