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tigeress19
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17 Oct 2006 23:27:03 GMT Report for Abuse
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Shakti anna
please spare with us and your contributions are more than welcome as i do read yours as well as many others. if you are busy atleast post a little post with a Q mark just to let others know you are watching us.
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Mucha-linda
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18 Oct 2006 01:15:02 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear LULA,
Let me clarify this first. The problem I found in your original post has nothing to do with the first quotation you made in your last reply (with 1 exception, which I will discuss if time permits), but is about the second quote you made there (which is),
When a person is ordained into the Sinhala Buddhist order as a monk, **they** select a Nikaya for the newly ordained monk according to his caste. (emphasis added)
There is no such supreme authority amongst Sri Lankan Buddhists for you to recognize as **THEY**.
Now, if Muchalinda is to be ordained into the Sinhala-Buddhist order as a monk, FIRST MUCHALINDA HAS TO LOOK FOR A NIKAYA, either Siam or Amarapura/Ramanna according to his higher or lower caste. Unfortunately, the Siam Nikaya will refuse to accept him if he is not from the Govigama caste.
Given what you wrote above, I think you have somewhat understood the point I made. If Muchalinda wants to become a (Sinhala) Buddhist monk, it is he who decides where to get ordained at, and not any other **THEY**.
Let me clarify further. If Muchalinda is to be ordained, he has nothing to worry about his caste AS LONG AS he has no intention to get ordained in Siam Nikaya. It is also wrong to think that both Amarapura and Ramañña Nikayas ordain people only from lower castes. The fact is both those Nikayas have no concern about one's caste, whatsoever.
For example, to my knowledge both Most Ven. (late) Madihe Paññasiha Thero and Ven. (late) Naradha Thero are from castes other than Govigama where as Ven. (late) Gangodawila Soma Thero and Most Ven. (late) Pelene Siri Wjiragnaña Thero are of Govigama origins, and all of them are of Amarapura Nikaya (please note I could be wrong on the castes of these venerable Buddhist priests).
Let me also make a final note over this.
My suggestion to you is very simple. If you do not know the breadth of the subject you are speaking, better refrain from that altogether.
Sorry if my words are too harsh there. I just wanted to annoy you a bit (as usual). I honestly wanted to take you out from the undeclared silence you observed since returned from your holidays.
-Muchalinda
PS: I also wanted to highlight that Sinhala Caste system is not a direct copy of that practiced in India. However I have no intention to waste my time any more on these Smaprapalapas (i.e. speech that benefits none of us neither here nor anywhere else).
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Mucha-linda
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18 Oct 2006 01:20:00 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear TIGRESS,
If your main concern is about Pancha Eeshwaran Temples, we can discuss that separately. AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, THE MAIN ISSUE I FOUND IS YOUR DECLARATION THAT SINHALAS ARE THE CONVERTS OF LOW CASTE TAMILS WITH NO SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
This should never mean that I do not want to discuss about Pancha Eeshwaran Temples. However, it is good if any of you can provide some solid evidence that indicate period these temples are built. I am not asking for any video footage as some Eelamists do, if it is about any historical account made in any of the chronicles. But all what I want is some acceptable evidence to that effect (Let me be pre-emptive on this. If you wish to re-iterate what Dr. Paul E. Peris has said in 1917 (as many Eelamist websites do), **please provide me the historical evidence upon which he has based his opinion**).
i will thrash it out when i come back, it is gonna be either you or me.
Well, dear Tigress, this is not the first time you said this. Not that it matters, but soon after the first time you made the same roar, you ended up crash landing over an issue about Kantarodai Temple. I hope you won?t face such a tragedy this time.
-Miss Muchalinda
PS: Don?t worry about copying all my posts again. I have employed a separate individual to keep an eye on what I edit. His name is SHAKTI (BTW, on one occasion, I in fact challenged him to report me for abuse to the administrator about something he alleged that I edited. But he tactfully refrained from that. After all, who wants to draw the attention of Mr. Brown for making false allegations when he himself is logging in under a different name having been once discarded over abusing. That is a different story, any way).
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Shakti
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18 Oct 2006 02:59:31 GMT Report for Abuse
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Tigress19,
In opinions we are perhaps diametrically opposite but as long as I remember our heated conversations never went to personal level.
However, the same wont happen when you get into debates with others like our good ole Muchie. But co not blame him because he is just following the great tradition of Nalin De Silva and JVP.
To be very fair, no matter how racist he is, I have never seen Nalin De Silva insulting the mother of any of his opponents.
I do not have to actually get into this debate at all because my friend LuLa is already involved.
LuLa and myself are from two ethnic groups and two religious backgrounds, but we two think so much alike and that makes my contributions redundant when he is there.
I can only make one correction. Ven. Gangodawila Soma thero was NOT of Gogivama origins. If I remember correctly, he was from the same caste of the others in the same Nikaya, and from a poor family. He had run a small shop in Udahamulla before being ordinated. |
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18 Oct 2006 03:07:23 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mucho,
Uvaiyz Imitiyaz nana joined SLFP. UNP ekata mokada me wenne Mucho?
Cheers
PERA |
LuLa
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18 Oct 2006 03:21:31 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mucha,
However I have no intention to waste my time any more on these Smaprapalapas
Yes, I am not going let to waste your time on these Smaprapalapas any more, but just a minor clarification.
It is also wrong to think that both Amarapura and Ramañña Nikayas ordain people only from lower castes. The fact is both those Nikayas have no concern about one's caste, whatsoever.
If I had thought that both Amarapura and Ramañña Nikayas ordain people only from lower castes I would not have written the following in my post.
This is the only statement where I need to make a small correction. The Maha Nayaka theros of the Amarapura/Ramanna Nikayas need not be from the higher caste where as those from the Siam Nayaka (Malwathu and Asgiri) should always be from a higher caste.
When I said, they need not be from the higher caste, that does not mean that they should only be from the lower castes.
If Muchalinda wants to become a (Sinhala) Buddhist monk, it is he who decides where to get ordained at, and not any other **THEY**.
Here, Muchalinda decides where he should go and where he should not when he wants to get ordained because he is well aware of how these Nikayas work.
Unfortunately, if Lula who does not know anything about Nikayas wants to get ordained as a monk, it is they who decide where I should go, they select the Nikaya for me depending on my caste.
PS: The 'they' here does not necessarly mean some kind of authority, it can be some members of the maha sangha.
Adios
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Mucha-linda
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19 Oct 2006 00:22:36 GMT Report for Abuse
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SHAKTI,
The CHALLENGE I put forward to you is clear. If you do not have COURAGE to take it up, please SHUT UP. Making false allegations is not going to take you anywhere.
Also, don't over estimate yourself. You are not a very important person in this forum for others to insult any of your relatives. Why should rest of us worry about insulting any of your relatives *even IF we wish*, when you are no longer a threat. It never occured for anyone here to insult any relatives of either NALEEN's or GENZED's when both of those are known LOSERs. You cannot be a special case.
Amen!
-Muchalinda
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Mucha-linda
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19 Oct 2006 01:55:59 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mucho,
Uvaiyz Imitiyaz nana joined SLFP. UNP ekata mokada me wenne Mucho?
PERA,
Imitiyaz Nana
UNP Wana
Rauf Hakeem Nana
UNPma Oona
Duka Thamai!!
-Mucha
PS: We all knew all along that Motta Raala is taking the Visionary Leader (who is also world renowned for Better Economic Management) on a ride. But I never expected him to take Katta Sira on the same ride (having especially seeing what happened to his brother-in-law). That is the beauty.
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Shakti
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19 Oct 2006 03:12:13 GMT Report for Abuse
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LuLa,
I think you got a walkover.
Did I ever tell you the difference between Pera and Muchie?
Muchie throws some insults in between his points.
Pera throws some points in between his insults. |
Mucha-linda
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19 Oct 2006 03:31:24 GMT Report for Abuse
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And..
SHAKTI throws some insults inbetween his insults.
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