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Hindus set to convert to Buddhism
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GamaRaala
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23 Nov 2006 00:36:24 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Kula,
Even if Prof. Indrapala declares that his thesis of 1965 is now outdated due to new research and archelogical discoveries, I have refused to accept that its outdated.


Why don't you take up Mucha's challenge and unload the so-called 'truck of New evidence' that is said to have emerged? :-)
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23 Nov 2006 00:47:34 GMT  Report for Abuse   
GamaRaala,

I am one who believes that we can always learn from the others too and I do read repeat read, everybody's posts on interesting subjects.
You are no exception.

I must say that I was truly happy to a greater extend when you said :

Tamils, as persons, like everyone else, is native while Tamil culture is not.


However, if that has always been your belief even from a long time, my apologies for mis-understanding you.

I am sure you would also agree, then, that Budhhist Culture is not native to Sri Lanka as it was imported from India too.

Kula
Edited By - Kulakottan - 23 Nov 2006 00:52:08 GMT
LuLa
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23 Nov 2006 01:47:34 GMT  Report for Abuse   
UlHaq,

I hope, by now you would have understood the reason why most of us in this forum have decided to ignore this stupid ModaRaala.
He makes my day by making me laugh with his same old comments/questions repeated 101 times.

Enjoy the fun.
Cheers
Kulakottan
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23 Nov 2006 01:51:21 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Why don't you take up Mucha's challenge and unload the so-called 'truck of New evidence' that is said to have emerged? :-)


I do not want another Ellaalan-Duttagamani conflict to be branded as a Tamil/Sinhalese clash when its not!!!
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23 Nov 2006 02:13:12 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Ariyalai_SB,

Regarding Nativity


The Tamil race originated in South India long before Lord Buddha was born.

The Tamil race (people) were living in Sri Lanka and worshipping those five Ishwarams of Siva long before Prince Vijay was born.

The recorded history of the island begins with Devanampiyatissa (252-212 BC).

The Sinhala race originated in Sri Lanka by the amalgamation of native Tamils and others with a religion, culture and a large part of the language from North India.

The Eela Tamil (also known as Sri Lankan Tamil) race originated in the North of Sri Lanka (Tamil Eelam) by the amalgamation of native Tamils, Sinhalese and others with a religion, culture and a large part of the language from South India.

I am a member of the indigenous race (Eela Tamil) that originated in the Northern part of the country known as Tamil Eelam from the native communities that lived in the Island for thousands of years.

I am a native of this land (Tamil Eelam) where my race is the majority, and my ancestors have lived there for many centuries.

In other wards, I am a member of indigenous majority in my own homeland of Tamil Eelam, the contiguous territory of traditional Tamil habitation in this country.

Some people have invented a new meaning for the term Nativity, and the funniest part is, only they decide who is native and who is not.

It should be pointed out that in both races which evolved in Sri Lanka, from the time of its origin, until now, a never ending continuous process of amalgamation, assimilation, naturalization, Sinhalization, Tamilaization, and all sort of mixing was going on within the region.
Edited By - LuLa - 23 Nov 2006 02:16:44 GMT
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23 Nov 2006 02:36:42 GMT  Report for Abuse   
UlHaq,

Hide and seek eh, why not????
Seeking knowledge should not have any barriers!!

There are no huge amounts of solid evidences either historic or archeological,to indicate that Kulakottan was a King in Lanka..

However, there are some legends related to the Thirukoneswaram temple in the East that A Chola Prince Kulakottan help to rebuild the destroyed ancient temple. He is supposed to have established settlements in the district and awarded lands for the upkeep of the Temple!

There is also a stone inscription or kalvettu, in Tamil, which is still in the entrance to the Portuguese Built Fort Fredrick in Triangle. The Fort was built using the stone of the destroyed Hindu Temple. This inscription talks about a Kulakottan prophecy that fortold the rules of the foreign forces, which is partly illegible and re-constructed and translated to read:

The temple built by Kulakkottan in ancient times will be later seized by the Parangi, and after the successive reigns of the cats eyed, the redyed and the smoke eyed(nations) it will voluntarily revert back to its original rulers


Since some parts are of the inscriptions are missing/illegible, there are other reconstructions too are available!

Kula
Edited By - Kulakottan - 23 Nov 2006 02:52:34 GMT
Kulakottan
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23 Nov 2006 03:15:08 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Just kidding UlHuq,

I was referring to the fact we all are hiding behiind various names and seeking knowledge!

Kula
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23 Nov 2006 03:27:00 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Kula,

In the sense that 'Buddhism is not a native religion in Sri Lanka', nor Christianty a native religion in England. Nor Islam a native religion in Malaysia or Pakistan.

The native cultures, who built the kingdoms of the above countries, accepted Buddhism/Christianty/Islam into their native identity. If the vast majority of Sinhalese -- the native culture -- dumped Buddhism and accepted Christianity/Islam/Hinduism, there is nothing wrong with those religions enjoying the constitutional foremost place in Sri Lanka (as has happened in Pakistan or Malaysia).

'Sinhalese' is the identity of a native culture in Sri Lanka who built the kingdom and subsequently ruled it. There is no other culture who can challenge the legitimacy of this Sinhalese Kingdom that was in the existance for last 2,500 years.

The Cholas, Pandayas, Tamils, Portuguese, Dutch, and the English cultures never had a legitimate kingdom PRIOR or in PARALLEL to the Sinhalese Kingdom within Sri Lanka. Therefore, these cultures do not have native rights in Sri Lanka. I explained this in detail in our previous discussion. It is because of this, Tamil Eelamists try to come with 'theories' that there was (3000 yeard old or not) Tamil Kingdom in Sri Lanka PRIOR or in PARALLEL to the Sinhalese Kingdom.

The JEWS in Europe who lived there for 2,000 years, but JEW culture is not given 'native' rights in Europe. The same applies for SL Tamils.

I am one who believes that we can always learn from the others too and I do read repeat read, everybody's posts on interesting subjects. You are no exception.


Kula, you, however, appreciated Lula for the complete opposite -- ignoring me :-)
Edited By - GamaRaala - 23 Nov 2006 03:28:13 GMT
Kulakottan
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23 Nov 2006 03:29:37 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Reading is different from debating my dear!!
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23 Nov 2006 03:37:34 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Kula,

Getting related to Kings eh??
Shall I call you Your highnss Kula???


Congrads!!

However Chola is a bad word today..

Herr Doktor is having a Chola - haemanigio carcinoma.

Cheers

PERA
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