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GamaRaala
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21 Nov 2006 10:05:45 GMT Report for Abuse
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UlHaq,
Despite how many times I keep refuting Lula's illogical arguments, he keeps responding to me with smiles/Yoga Laughs. So, Lula is indeed a nice person, especially in comparison to someone like Ariyalai_SB, who serves no useful purpose in this thread. ;-)
Edited By - GamaRaala - 21 Nov 2006 10:06:48 GMT |
Ariyalai_SB
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21 Nov 2006 11:53:27 GMT Report for Abuse
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Lula is indeed a nice person, especially in comparison to someone like Ariyalai_SB, who serves no useful purpose in this thread. ;-)
Well, well, I must have touched a raw nerve on this person; it is not surprising is it?
It is my choice as to, to whom I should be nice, and to whom I should be not nice. I debated with many decent Sinhalese who genuinely dislike LTTE, but want absolutely equal rights for the Tamils; we Tamils want more of these people than Mucha and GaamaRala to be frank.
The Sinhalese are the majority; I have no qualms about that; but, they need to accommodate the Tamils and other minorities respecting pluralism, secularism, and diversity. No one is superior to another human being, and community rights should be respected; Tamils do not need to fight for their rights. The first constitution of Ceylon was designed with this in mind, that is to build a nation of subjects, but the Muchas and GaamRaalas of Sri Lanka had other ideas!
I need to prove to no one in respect of authenticity of my Sri Lankaness; I am a Sri Lankan and a Tamil; who the hell is Mucha or GaamaRala to tell me otherwise? |
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21 Nov 2006 13:24:07 GMT Report for Abuse
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UlHaq,
Past is Past we should think and plan about future more.
Exactly, talking about the past ancient history is not going to change anything.
The political claims that led to the current conflict should be judged in terms of accepted universal Human Rights and not in terms of their past in the Island.
Here, I am only having some fun with these Sinhala-Buddhist chauvinist kids, some of their very silly repeated questions make me really laugh.
Today, they are at their best, over exited.
If you go thro? the posting history of Sinhala-Buddhist chauvinist kid Raala, you will only find the same questions repeated over and over and over again.
BTW, I am neither an academic nor a historian, I learned history only after joining this forum. To argue with these kids, you need not be an academic, just a few days of reading is more than enough.
Anyways, thanks for all your comments.
Enjoy the fun,
Cheers
Edited By - LuLa - 21 Nov 2006 13:27:52 GMT |
Shakti
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21 Nov 2006 14:47:29 GMT Report for Abuse
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Lula,
For some unexplainable reason I still cannot log to the site from my office. Explains my absence in the forum for a long time.
I did not bother to read the posts in the thread, as I have heard the arguments so many times ago.
In addition, I do not believe a country or part of it should be 'assigned' to any one community - irrespective of the number of years that community has been living in this country. If the constitution of a country recognizes the citizens equally, every citizen should be given the same rights. Everyone should be free to follow ones own culture and practice ones own religion. (and change it, for whatever the reason) Everyone should be allowed to live without fear and with dignity.
Almost all countries which have maintained this symmetry in the rights given citizens have always developed themselves. The only exception I know is Malaysia. However, in Malaysia the minorities were given enough business opportunities to develop themselves, even though they have not given their rights fully.
I live in future. Not in the past.
To me, history is only a subject of academic interest, not of political interest. (Yes, I am deeply interested in it academically)
What is the use of boasting about 2,500 old history if we still have to beg foreign aid annually to keep the population out from starvation?
P.S. By the way all the arguments I have brought forward in this thread were anti-separatist, but unfortunately our JVP lokkas were so dumb, they did not even realize that.
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Edited By - Shakti - 21 Nov 2006 14:54:56 GMT |
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21 Nov 2006 14:50:27 GMT Report for Abuse
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Lula,
Mucha does not believe in short cuts to solve the problem in his fatherland.
Do you know what is the problem in his fatherland, Australia? |
LuLa
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21 Nov 2006 14:53:37 GMT Report for Abuse
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What happened to the evidence for the so-called 'Muti-something' Anuradhapura Kingdom? :-) Didn't you yet find any evidence that 'Clearly identifiable native Demadas' ruled the Anuradhapura Kingdom ?
YES, that?s what Prof. Indrapala says in his new book. Its ONLY U$.14.
Please Yoga-Laugh as many times as you like, since you don't have any other answer
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, He, he, he, he, he, Hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, Hooo, hoo, ho, ho, ho.
I just cannot stop LOL. |
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21 Nov 2006 14:54:02 GMT Report for Abuse
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Because my name was mentioned I am jumping in make my point. Muru hope you wouldn't mind
Good, again we are talking with some sense.
why should we need to have such archaeological evidences to establish that Tamil speakers were nothing but mainly a migrated lot. We are not speaking here about a massive migration that occurred between two continents. Please do not exaggerate the facts (like our friend SHAN always does) The issue we are dealing here is a migration of a relatively small population across a fairly narrow straight. Even in the worst case scenario, what we are dealing here is a migration of mere 750,000 people from a massive 55 Million population across a 21 miles wide straight. We do not need to have any archaeological evidence to believe this, do we
please don't try to SIMPLIFY the most important fact and could be THE point we should be able to focus and talk. Have any Muslims ruled the A'Pura kingdom time and time again from BC onwards? We are talking about this since few centuries from BC. It is of course difficult to say whether Ellala was a Tamil or ancient Tamil. But all can agree that there was some thing and he was different than Sinhala as well as the others considered as alien by the A'pura kingdom and was defeated.
WAS APURA WALK IN KINGDOM FOR SOME PEOPLE TO WALK ACROSS AND RULE?
Even in the worst case scenario, what we are dealing here is a migration of mere 750,000 people from a massive 55 Million population across a 21 miles wide straight. We do not need to have any archaeological evidence to believe this, do we
We don't if they came here as you have mentioned bellow about the Muslims. There wasn't any ingrained history animosity and wars like Tamils and Sinhala starting from BC onwards. People are leaving the NE now in huge numbers to date. Villages after villages are destroyed. This is the history.
SO WE WANT FACTS NOTHING BUT THE FACTS. DON'T WE?
AGAIN THE 21 MILES AND IMPORTANT POINT.
HOW CONFIDENT ARE YOU THAT TAMILS WOULDN'T BE SETTLED IN FROM BC ONWARDS.
Edited By - shan - 21 Nov 2006 15:13:25 GMT |
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21 Nov 2006 14:55:13 GMT Report for Abuse
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Ok, even mere 50000 people crossing over to a hostile territory and displacing traditionally well settled Sinhala community in 12 AD wouldn't have simply evaporated from history books that simple. If Ellala and Naga story can stand a chance this presumed significant event would **NOT** have gone unnoticed by historians if the case was true. What stopped the Mullahs to rule the walk in and rule the kingdoms? History tell us mullahs managed to do that in India and convert massive population into their faith. So come out with facts and figures than simply whitewashing the whole history. So can you at least show us Tamilisation of NE.
Let me put it in another way. 8% of Sri Lankan population is of Islamic Faith. But there is no archaeological evidence to show that there was a massive migration of a Muslim Population to Sri Lanka or that there were mullahs preaching Islam wandering in the island in the early centuries. Now, in your (or SHANs) logic, are we to believe that Islam faith as something originated in Sri Lanka and that Muslims lived in this country since antiquity. On the other hand, there is also no archaeological evidence to the effect of a mass exodus of Sinhalas from areas like Beruwala etc paving the way to Muslims. Therefore MURU, should we believe they Muslims have lived their since antiquity!!
If that is the case about Muslims, why cannot that also be the case of Tamils. At least in case of Tamils we have established historical/ archaeological accounts on invasions, hired armies, consorts, prisoners etc from South India, whereas in case of Muslims, there is almost nothing.
By all means for the above reasons this is not good explanation. This shows that you don't have answers and of course you wont get it and you can come out with some explanations all your life. Unfortunately your beloved subject never works like that when it get into serious discussion.
Edited By - shan - 21 Nov 2006 15:44:17 GMT |
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21 Nov 2006 15:00:43 GMT Report for Abuse
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Shakti
Nice to see you here after a long time. As usual, I agree with you 100%.
Try to solve your log in problem, we need people like you in this forum. |
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