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shan
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19 Nov 2006 12:56:42 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Lula,

Actually, I do not enjoy bashing an archaeologist and epigraphist who spent his life time researching, exploring and excavating, but unfortunately it is true that Prof. Paranavitana was a biased researcher. All the assumptions what he made were only one sided.
Prof. K. Indrapala in his new book (pg.7), under the heading 'The Paranavitana factor' says a lot about him, even though he says, he does not believe that Prof. Paranavitana attempted to foist a hoax.
At one point he says, many researches, young and old, disagreed with several of his views and theories in private but were not willing to go public


You may agree on some thing about the so called *academics of Sri Lanka, ie their attitude and behaviour. Usually they are arrogant,(ignorant) and opportunists and of course biased and manipulative. Don't you think they should have behaved more sensibly whether it was parana or KI. I don't care what position they held if they couldn't answer or revised their work time and time again and publish either in supportive of their own assumptions and findings or ready to discard it when it has no credibility. Ok KI has revised it after some time where are the others and what is the problem going in public? Issues KI raised with his Phd thesis is controversial but he was praised for obvious reasons by the majority. Now he has some reservations to his original rushed out Phd thesis what is the problem with other historians. That is the different between our researchers and the westerner. What you,Kula and Mucha have done a good job than these intellectuals.


LULA IS IT YOUR DUTY TO PROVIDE THE TRUCK LOAD OF EVEDENCE TO THE IDIOTS TO A KNOWN FACT. YOU HAVE DONE YOUR PART AND YOU HAVE EXPLAINED IN DETAIL SL TAMIL IDENTTITY. YOUR ANALYSIS AND THE TIME YOU SPEND DESERVES MUCH APPRICIATION. THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE FORUM.

SHAN
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19 Nov 2006 12:57:20 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Ladies and Gentlemen, and Idiots:

Since 50 years of independence we had 4 major riots and this ethnically motivated trouble continue unabated. Within these 55 years more than 60000 Tamils have been killed and 350000 were forced to leave the country.

So tell us at least how many times the Tamils / rulers were challenge since Tamil kingdom is formed. You should have at least a ship load of evidence to this.

Finding few inscriptions with Sinhala king names do not necessarily reflect the local population and by all means it might be the incursions by these kings. Finding Hindu temples and Tamil inscriptions do not necessarily reflect the local population and can be found in whole south East Asia. Finding ancient Sinhala inscriptions yes some king has done some thing. But NOT BHUDDHA statues.

Rock solid evidence for SL Tamils is Tamils living in the NE. Matter is simple as that. Now we need the ship load of evidence of mass migration of Tamils from India and chasing a well settled Sinhela community.

If you do not have any evidence to that the last group - idiots - can step in and come out with some funny stories to entertain us.
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19 Nov 2006 13:00:45 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Kula

Spot on mate. Short and sweet.

Hello Ari SB

How are you Sir, Back enjoying LNP.
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19 Nov 2006 13:13:07 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Shan,

When they asked me to download just one from that truck load, I gave them the following.

This is what the good Professor says at the beginning of the book (pg. 3), *The subject of this book*

This book is concerned with the Tamils who lived in Sri Lanka in the early centuries of its history and with the evolution of an ethnic community speaking the Tamil language in the Northern, Northwestern and Eastern regions of the Island whose decedents in modern times perceive themselves as an ethnic identity that is DIFFERENT from the Tamils of South India as well as other ethnic groups in Sri Lanka.

A few quotes from the book.

'The idea that the Demela were foreign intruders and the Hela fought to liberate their people is nonsensical'.

'The earliest inscriptions and the early Pali chronicles attest to the presence of the Tamils (Damedas/Damelas) in the EIA (Early Iron Age)'.

'The Demedas in Sri Lanka in the centuries BCE (Before Common Era or AD) need not, therefore, be considered as outsiders'.

The Ila (or Hela or Sila as the ancient Sri Lankan inhabitants were known) moved back and forth between Sri Lanka and South India just as the Demeda or Demela (Tamils) did.

The idea of looking upon the Demedas as aliens was surely not prevalent in the Early Historical Period (EHP).

The earliest extant chronicle of the island, namely, the Dipavamsa, does not refer to the Damila rulers of Anuradhpura (Sena and Guttaka) in its list as invaders. Nor does the Mahawamsa, the most important ancient Sinhala chronicle.

By the time of Kassapa, there are definite references in these epigraphs (sinhala inscriptions) to Tamil villages and lands. Demel-kaballa, Demelat-valademin and Demel-gam-bim which have been translated as Tamil-allotment, Tamil-lands, and Tamil-villages and lands. The interpretation of these terms and the provenance of the inscriptions referring to these terms are of great significance for the study of the Tamil population in the Anuradapura kingdom in the period under discussion.


The book is only U$.14, instead of buying a copy, they are expecting me to type the whole book here.
LuLa
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19 Nov 2006 13:25:09 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Shan,

This is what Prof K. Indrapala says about his 1965 thesis:

I was planning my postgraduate research, the late Prof. W.J.F. LaBrooy, my revered teacher and, at that time, Head of the department of History at the University, advised me to research into the early history of the Tamils of Sri Lanka for my doctoral dissertation, as he considered this aspect to be a serious gap in the known history of the Island.

The thesis was completed with the material that was available in the early 1960s.
As long as excavation work remains undone, I pointed out, much that is relevant to our study will be wanting... Even the inscriptions and literary works that we have used have proved to be inadequate in the reconstruction of a satisfactory history of the settlements and in the solution of many important problems.

The thesis was presented as the first major attempt to bring together all available evidence on the subject. THE FACT THAT IT WAS IN NO WAY A COMPLETE STUDY WAS ADMITTED. In view of these limitations and difficulties, while we may claim to have added something to our knowledge of the history of the Tamils of Ceylon, the account presented here is inevitably incomplete and not always definite. We have often been led to state our conclusions in hypothetical terms.

NEEDLESS TO SAY, THAT DISSERTATION IS NOW COMPLETELY OUT OF DATE. MY OWN PERSPECTIVES AND INTERPRETATIONS HAVE CHANGED SINCE ITS COMPLETION.

More importantly, significant developments, both in terms of archaeological research and changing historical perspectives, have taken place in the LAST FOUR DECADES.
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19 Nov 2006 13:25:41 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Lula

They have a habit of

Thady koduthu adi vanguvathu.

There really enjoy it and sort of masochistic ralas. Today is a good day.
Edited By - shan - 19 Nov 2006 13:34:26 GMT
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19 Nov 2006 13:31:58 GMT  Report for Abuse   
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Edited By - shan - 19 Nov 2006 13:32:41 GMT
shan
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19 Nov 2006 13:44:54 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Lula,

Good on you mate. I would not bother if you spend time with a new member. These guys were dealt precisely point by point previously and the forum members knew very well. Have a nice afternoon.

shan
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19 Nov 2006 14:40:07 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Dear Ari,

How are you???

Thank you very much for your message on the other thread!

Kula
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19 Nov 2006 14:43:21 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Dear Shan,

Thanks and I have run out of my patience even though I could not abstain from making short comments.

However, I have been enjoying Lula's contributions and of course Mucha's too.

I must praise Lula for his patients and endurance.

Enjoy the evening!
Edited By - Kulakottan - 19 Nov 2006 14:47:59 GMT
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