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Kulakottan
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19 Nov 2006 00:16:12 GMT Report for Abuse
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Quote from Gamarala:
First, Lula declares 'Anuradhapura Kingdom was Multi-ethnic, Multi-cultural, Multi-something Kingdom.
Then, Lula quotes Prof LG and contradicts himself;
He (Prof. Leslie Gunawardena) says, contrary to popular belief, in ancient times the ** Sinhala identity ** was associated primarily with the dynasty which ruled Anuradapura.
'Suicidal' must be a more suitable word to describe Lula's debating skills.
Suicidal????
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kingdom
--- noun 1 a country, state, or territory ruled by a king or queen
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dynasty
/dinn sti/
---noun (pl. dynasties) 1 a line of hereditary rulers. 2 a succession of powerful or prominent people from the same family.
Edited By - Kulakottan - 19 Nov 2006 01:08:04 GMT |
LuLa
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19 Nov 2006 01:57:06 GMT Report for Abuse
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Thanks Kula for teaching this Sinhala-Buddhist chauvinist kid some English.
Lula's posting history clearly says that both Sinhalese and Tamils of Sri Lankan do not dispute that their ancestors originated from India about five to six or ten centuries Before the Common Era (BCE).
Out of all the languages in the world, the ones most similar to Sinhala in shape and formation is Malayalam and Thelungu. For the rest of it, Ariyalai_SB already admitted that it was from an incorrect source.
Edited By - LuLa - 19 Nov 2006 02:48:27 GMT |
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19 Nov 2006 06:13:12 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kula,
Your post on 19 Nov 2006 00:16:12 GMT gives the indication that you were clueless. Take a little bit of time in reading, it will help you understand the context.
I did write the below, (which you quoted)
First, Lula declares 'Anuradhapura Kingdom was Multi-ethnic, Multi-cultural, Multi-something Kingdom.
Then, Lula quotes Prof LG and contradicts himself;
He (Prof. Leslie Gunawardena) says, contrary to popular belief, in ancient times the ** Sinhala identity ** was associated primarily with the dynasty which ruled Anuradapura.
To make it easy for you to understand why Lula gets himself contradicted, I'll explain in detail.
Lula puts forward a his-story that Anuradhapaura Kingdom was 'multi-ethnic', 'multi-cultural', 'multi-something' Kingdom. By saying this, Lula argues that rulers of Anuradhapura were not of solely 'Sinhalese' nor the power was held solely by the 'Sinhalese'.
Then, Lula quotes Prof LG, who defines 'Sinhala' as the 'rulers of the Anuradhapura Kingdom'! When Prof LG defines 'Sinhalese Identity' as the rulers of Anuradhapura, 'Demadas' lose any claim to have ruled 'Anuradhapura Kingdom'. This contradicts Lula's 'his-story' that 'non-Sinhalese' (or 'Demadas') ruled Anuradhapura Kingdom. :-)
Remember, Lula's assertion was that 'Demada' were 'Tamils' and Lula could clearly identify these 'Demadas' as 'Tamils'!!. So, these 'CLEARLY IDENTIFIABLE DEMADAS' cannot be the 'SINHALESE who ruled Anuradhapura' (that Prof LG talks about)!! That is why Lula's debating skills were SUICIDAL.
See, it is not difficult when you spend some time. Remembers, there is a saying that goes 'Think before Jump'. Shakti aka ANAlyst, with his 'O/Level Sinhala D', follows it as 'Jump before Think'. I think you don't have to fall into that category. ;-)
PS:
Neither Mucha nor I follow Prof LG's assertions. We do not quote him to strengthen our arguments. Lula quotes from him, only to have himself contradicted.
PS2: Thanks for responding. I knew, even though you advised Lula not to respond to me, you were reading my posts to find something that you can respond. :-)
Edited By - GamaRaala - 19 Nov 2006 07:18:47 GMT |
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19 Nov 2006 06:21:44 GMT Report for Abuse
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Lula,
Lula's posting history clearly says that both Sinhalese and Tamils of Sri Lankan do not dispute that their ancestors originated from India about five to six or ten centuries Before the Common Era (BCE).
1. Like any culture, 'Tamil Culture' is native to where it originated, ie India, as you admit above.
2. Like any culture, 'Sinhalese Culture' is native to where it originated, ie Sri Lanka.
3. Sinhalese Culture did not originate in India. Sinhalese is a culture that originated in Sri Lanka. There are no native speakers of Sinhalese in Sinhala-Nadu/Bengali-Nadu/Kerala-Nadu in India.
4. People of various ethnics, cultures, languages may have come from anywhere (India, Europe, Arab etc) and assimilated into Sinhala culture, however, they were not 'cultural ancestors' of Sinhalese Culture. None of these foreign cultures are prominent in 'Sinhala culture' to trace back Sinhalese cultural ancestry to them.
Edited By - GamaRaala - 19 Nov 2006 06:44:32 GMT |
Kulakottan
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19 Nov 2006 09:57:32 GMT Report for Abuse
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Vilunthaalum Thambikku meesayila mun ottayilla.
Its OK!!
Eventhough, malli fell down, there was no sand on his mustache!! |
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19 Nov 2006 10:21:09 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kula,
Did Malli fall down while unloading the infamous truck of evidence? I guessed something terrible has happened, it shouldn't have taken this long to unload it. ;-) |
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19 Nov 2006 10:40:55 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kula,
Eventhough, malli fell down, there was no sand on his mustache!!
That is probably because Lula malli does not have a mustache in the first place ;-) |
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19 Nov 2006 11:00:19 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear Kula and LuLa,
This idiot does not realise that him and his ilks are in fact making building blocks helping to realise Eelam. Basically, Prabhaharn would prefer more of Gaamaralas and Muchas; when these people talk anthem of Eelam rings loud and clear in his ears!
As I said before these people manifest their chronic insecurity; once one falls pray to this destructive force, one loses all sense of balance and rational! By the time one realises one's mistakes, Sri Lanka will be in two bleeding halves; this is what Colwyn and NM never wanted to see happening.
Edited By - Ariyalai_SB - 19 Nov 2006 11:47:18 GM |
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19 Nov 2006 12:35:04 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear Kula and Ariyalai_SB,
See how this fellow is twisting, turning and manipulating all what I said, just to save his face.
Prof. Indrapala says, the Demada (Tamil) kings Sena and Guttaka who ruled the Anuradapura kingdom were natives of the Island (NOT invaders).
Prof. Leslie Gunawardena says, Sinhala identity was associated primarily with the dynasty which ruled Anuradapura.
Other than the Sinhala dynasty, the 'multi-ethnic', 'multi-cultural', 'multi-something' Anuradapura kingdom was also ruled by Tamils and Nagas from time to time.
Kula, your quote made me really laugh, very appropriate for this fellow.
Vilunthaalum Thambikku meesayila mun ottayilla.
Eventhough, malli fell down, there was no sand on his mustache!!
I think, when the Portuguese arrived, they must have surly come across a few of this kind for them to come up with that famous quote about the Sinhala race and the Kavum. Fortunately, this type is only a minority among the Sinhalese.
Edited By - LuLa - 19 Nov 2006 12:59:09 GMT |
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19 Nov 2006 12:55:31 GMT Report for Abuse
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Ariyalai_SB,
After reading your post, I remembered an important and interesting speech by Lee Kuan Yew, the founding father of Singapore.
(Kula posted this one).
'Sri Lanka - the Country will Never be Put Together Again'
Lee Kuan Yew, 1998
Now in his graying years - he is 74 now - the founding father of Singapore is regarded as virtually a national institution at home. In transforming a busy ramshackle port city on a resource less island into a prosperous multi-lingual nation, he created a model for other developing countries. He left the premiership in 1990 and assumed the role of, senior minister, but wields as much prestige and influence today as he did while holding office, a distinction rarely earned by any politician in any other country.
In talking of Sri Lanka, this is what Lee Kuan Yew says: -
'We have got to live with the consequences of our actions and we are responsible for our own people and we take the right decisions for them. You look at the old Philippines. The old Ceylon. The old East Pakistan and several others. I have been to these countries and places. When 1 went to Colombo for the first time in 1956 it was a better city than Singapore because Singapore had three and a half years of Japanese occupation and Colombo was the centre or HQ of Mountbatten's Southeast Asia command.
And they had sterling reserves. They had two Universities. Before the war, a thick layer of educated talent so if you believe what American liberals or British liberals used to say, then it ought to have flourished. But it didn't.
One-man one-vote led to the domination of the Sinhalese majority over the minority Tamils who were the active and intelligent fellows who worked hard and got themselves penalized. And English was out. They were educated in English. Sinhalese was in. They got quotas in two universities and now they have become fanatical Tigers. And the country will never be put together again.
Somebody should have told them - change the system, loosen up, or break off. And looking back, I think the Tunku was wise. (The reference is to Tunku Abdul Rahman the Malaysian Prime Minister under whose rule Singapore separated from Malaysia). I offered a loosening up of the system. He said: 'Clean cut, go your way'. Had we stayed in, and I look at Colombo and Ceylon, I mean changing names, sometimes maybe you deceive the gods, but I don't think you are deceiving the people who live in them. !t makes no great difference to the tragedy that is being enacted. They failed because they had weak or wrong leaders '. |
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