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GamaRaala
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17 Nov 2006 03:59:05 GMT Report for Abuse
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Lula,
* * GET THIS CRYSTAL CLEAR * *.
Your alleged evidence from the truckload at 17 Nov 2006 00:52:42 GMT is an utter failure.
You boasted that Demadas' had (before 13 CAD)
1)their own language
2)their own culture
So, where are the proof for these, from the truckload? :-) :-)
The undenianble, bold fact is that Karthigesu Indrapala himself COULD NOT clearly indentify Tamils as an Ethnic prior to 13 CAD. It is this lack of Tamil Ethnic Identity prior to 13 CAD that made him rule that only after 13 CAD, that SL Tamil Ethnic Identity emerged.
You already called Karthigesu Indrapala as 'not knowledgable' as Prof Leslie G. Then again, you put yourself one step ahead and claim you could even identify Tamil Ethnic Identity before the 13 CAD, contradicting the same prof Leslie G!!.
Mucha also asked to unload a piece of 'new evidence' to counter the below;
The foregoing evidence points to the inevitable conclusion that in the Anuradhapura period, and possibly till about the twelfth century, there were Buddhists in the Jaffna peninsula. Although it may appear reasonable to presume that these Buddhists were Sinhalese like those in other parts of the island, some have tried to argue that they were Tamils. While it is true that there were Tamil Buddhists in South India and Ceylon before the twelfth century and possibly even later, there is evidence to show that the Buddhists who occupied the Jaffna peninsula in the Anuradhapura period were Sinhalese. We refer to the toponymic evidence which ** unmistakably points ** to the presence of Sinhala settlers in the peninsula before Tamils settled there. In an area of only about nine hundred square miles covered by this peninsula, there occur over a thousand Sinhalese place names which have survived in a Tamil garb. (page 273)
This evidence must be too heavy; is that the reason you could not unload one of them? :-)
Edited By - GamaRaala - 17 Nov 2006 04:11:26 GMT |
GamaRaala
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17 Nov 2006 04:08:11 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mucha,
why on earth he again says that Tamil Identity emerged only after the 13 CAD.
For rest of us,
Ethnic Identity = Ability to identify an Ethnic.
According to Lula, Tamil Ethnic could be clearly identified even before the Tamil Ethnic identity emerged in 13 CAD!
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17 Nov 2006 04:12:24 GMT Report for Abuse
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To Whom It May Concern,
Prof. K. Indrapala's new book is ONLY U$.14, Please buy a copy and read it without wasting other people's precious time. If you cannot afford to spend just U$.14, it is advisable not to engage in this type of arguments.
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GamaRaala
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17 Nov 2006 04:27:57 GMT Report for Abuse
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Lula,
Karthigesu Indrapala's book does NOT say Tamils had a unique language/culture, thus a unique identity, before 13 CAD. It is only you who come up with this kind of cheap lies.
So, please quote from KI's new book, that you bought for $14, that where it has evidence to prove your claim that,
'Tamils had
1)their own language
2)their own culture
before 13 CAD'.
Don't forget, Mucha challenged you to unload an evidence from the truck; that truck seems to have gone missing :-) |
GamaRaala
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17 Nov 2006 04:35:29 GMT Report for Abuse
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Lula,
Please clarify whether you accept the below.
Ethnic Identity = Characteristics that enable an Ethnic to be identified among others.
Then, please explain how you 'clearly identify Tamil Ethnic prior to 13 CAD', when this 'ability of clearly identifying Tamil Ethnic' emerged only after 13 CAD.
Edited By - GamaRaala - 17 Nov 2006 04:36:07 GMT |
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17 Nov 2006 04:39:52 GMT Report for Abuse
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To Whom It May Concern,
Prof. K. Indrapala's new book gives the answers to ALL THE ABOVE SILLY QUESTIONS. It is ONLY U$.14, Please buy a copy and read it without wasting other people's precious time. If you cannot afford to spend just U$.14, it is advisable not to engage in this type of arguments.
My dear friends,
The undermentioned statements are **ONLY** for 'the serene joy and emotion of the Sinhala-Buddhist chauvinists'.
Before the 13th CAD,
1) The Tamils in Sri Lanka were identified as 'Cholas'.
2) They did not have a language, so they were using only sign language.
3) They did not have any culture.
Enjoy the fun,
I'm history, Adios.
PS: I'm history is another way of saying goodbye.
Edited By - LuLa - 17 Nov 2006 05:10:38 GMT |
GamaRaala
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17 Nov 2006 04:55:29 GMT Report for Abuse
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Lula,
I'm history, Adios.
This is the problem with your arguments; you think you ARE the history hence everyone else has to believe your nonsense.
When you talk about nosense like you could 'clearly identify Tamil Ethnic prior to 13 CAD' or 'Demadas had a unique language and culture prior to 13 CAD', everyone else asks you for evidence from the truckload you boasted.
The moment you are asked to unload some of them from the truck, you decide to run away! Shakti may call this a 'walk over' ;-)
But we would like you to come back with the truck ;-)
PS: Shakti aka the ANAlyst may call 'saying goodbye without unloading the truck' a walk over ;-)
Edited By - GamaRaala - 17 Nov 2006 05:35:30 GMT |
Mucha-linda
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17 Nov 2006 05:26:38 GMT Report for Abuse
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GAMAYA,
If you cannot afford to spend just U$.14, it is advisable not to engage in this type of arguments.
I am no way saying that our friend LULA has not spent US$14 to buy this book. But for some ***REALLY STRANGE*** reasons, all citations he made from that book (which is said have in his possesion) are things that can be found on two web sites.
I am referring to the post our friend LULA made on 17 Nov 2006 00:52:42 GMT.
He wrote:
This book is concerned with the Tamils who lived in Sri Lanka in the early centuries of its history and with the evolution of an ethnic community speaking the Tamil language in the Northern, Northwestern and Eastern regions of the Island whose decedents in modern times perceive themselves as an ethnic identity that is DIFFERENT from the Tamils of South India as well as other ethnic groups in Sri Lanka.
Now go to the following link.
http://www.tamilnation.org/books/Eelam/indrapala.htm
Read the 7 th Paragraph.
FUNNY ISN'T IT!!
Then our friend said,
'The idea that the Demela were foreign intruders and the Hela fought to liberate their people is nonsensical'.
'The earliest inscriptions and the early Pali chronicles attest to the presence of the Tamils (Damedas/Damelas) in the EIA (Early Iron Age)'.
'The Demedas in Sri Lanka in the centuries BCE (Before Common Era or AD) need not, therefore, be considered as outsiders'.
The Ila (or Hela or Sila as the ancient Sri Lankan inhabitants were known) moved back and forth between Sri Lanka and South India just as the Demeda or Demela (Tamils) did.
The idea of looking upon the Demedas as aliens was surely not prevalent in the Early Historical Period (EHP).
The earliest extant chronicle of the island, namely, the Dipavamsa, does not refer to the Damila rulers of Anuradhpura (Sena and Guttaka) in its list as invaders. Nor does the Mahawamsa, the most important ancient Sinhala chronicle.
Now go to the following URL.
http://www.dailynews.lk/2006/02/01/fea02.htm
You will find all those citations very much in the same order in that article.
That is why I told you. For some STRANGE REASON, all what he said to have unloaded from that truck are stuff someone has already unloaded previously. FUNNY ISN'T IT?
But my friend, I have no doubts about this sort of coincidences. If the borders of North AND East that were demarcated by British as late as 1889 can run along the very borders of a 3000 years old Tamil Homeland, this cannot be something impossible.
FUNNY ISN'T IT?
-Mucha
PS: (FUN)
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Edited By - Mucha-linda - 17 Nov 2006 05:30:46 GM |
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17 Nov 2006 09:52:15 GMT Report for Abuse
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| Mucha can loot and hoot with his his-story! |
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17 Nov 2006 14:26:33 GMT Report for Abuse
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Hi Lula
I am busy with domestic issues (moving house) and on leave from work. My PC's video card blown off 2/7 ago and my pc is out of action. One of my friends lend me a laptop and I managed to pop in. (I typed few comments on my pc but now it should be out dated) I know it is frustrating but my advice is get some enjoyment by bashing Parana and Co.
Edited By - shan - 17 Nov 2006 14:40:27 GMT |
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