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LuLa
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17 Nov 2006 01:20:13 GMT Report for Abuse
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Once Sakthi said,
Sometimes the gorilla might come before him. Be alert. If he comes, just give him also something instead of just chasing off the fellow. If you don't have bananas give him some punnaku.
Here is some punnaku for the gorilla who keeps coming knowing very well that he will never get bananas. (even though I do not read what he writes, I read this one because Kula has also given a short reply).
This is just a small part of what is said about that famous one-sided, biased researcher Prof. Paranavitana, said by Indrapala.
It is indeed very sad that such an eminent epigraphist who enjoyed for several decades a great reputation for his expertise had to end his days as a discredited scholar in respect of his final publications. |
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17 Nov 2006 01:26:23 GMT Report for Abuse
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LULA,
In my *belated reply*, can you tell me where I mentioned Cholas?
It is here you mentioned that.
Before the 13th CAD, Tamils lived as Tamils (Demadas), not as Indian Tamils, NOT AS CHOLAS, Pandiyans, or Cheras, and not as Eela Tamils. They lived under the multi-ethnic Anuradapura Kingdom, not under a Sinhala Kingdom, or a Tamil kingdom or a Naga kingdom. They were CLEARLY IDENTIFIED as Demadas (Tamils) due to their language and culture even though, not by their names and religion. (11 Nov 2006 22:29:26 GMT, Emphasis added)
CHALLENGE STILL REMAINS OPENED.
-Muchalinda
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Edited By - Mucha-linda - 17 Nov 2006 01:39:05 GM |
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17 Nov 2006 01:44:32 GMT Report for Abuse
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sorry, duplicate.
Edited By - LuLa - 17 Nov 2006 01:47:12 GMT |
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17 Nov 2006 01:46:04 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mucha,
CHALLENGE STILL REMAINS OPENED.
NONSENSE!
My above post clears all the doubts, there is NOT a single word 'CHOLAS', it is Tamils (Demadas/Damilas) and NOTHING but Tamils (Demadas/Damilas), according to Indrapala.
PLEASE READ HIS BOOK!
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17 Nov 2006 01:51:37 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear GORILLA,
If Dr. Indrapala has said the following words,
It is indeed very sad that such an eminent epigraphist who enjoyed for several decades a great reputation for his expertise had to end his days as a discredited scholar in respect of his final publications.
..what we all need to do is to stop quoting Dr. Paranavithana from his last Publications.
Very Simple.
Anyways Gori, is it not a good news to hear that our O/L Distinction holder epigraphist and the Erudite ANAlyst has recruited someone in his place to feed Punnakku to Gorillas.
By the way my dear, do you too have any Konde Bendapu Javanese origins. This friend of that ERUDITE ANAlyst expects you to believe him when he says that, he ususally does not read your posts.
-Muchalinda
PS: Heh..heh..!!(FUN)
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17 Nov 2006 02:13:03 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear LULA,
I do not know if you have eaten what you were supposed to feed to Gorillas. But something is surely wrong with you.
It was not me, but you who argued about a group of people called DEMADAS who lived in Anuradhapura before the 13 CAD. You further said that those DEMADAS (which you later called Native Tamils) had an identity different to that of CHOLAS etc. According to you, it was the assimilation of this Native Tamils (or DEMADAS) with other groups that resulted in your so called EELA TAMILS.
This is what **YOU** you wrote.
Before the 13th CAD, Tamils lived as Tamils (DEMADAS), not as Indian Tamils, **NOT AS CHOLAS**, Pandiyans, or Cheras, and not as Eela Tamils. They lived under the multi-ethnic Anuradapura Kingdom, not under a Sinhala Kingdom, or a Tamil kingdom or a Naga kingdom. They were **CLEARLY IDENTIFIED** as Demadas (Tamils) due to their language and culture even though, not by their names and religion. (Emphasis added)
The challenege was not about the presence of DEMADAS in Anuradhapura Kingdom (a fact even established in Mahavnsa). What I Chellenged you is to prove that those DEMADAS mentioned in Chronicles (etc) are different to (in your words: NOT AS) those CHOLAS.
None of the quotes youmade from Dr. Indrapala's new book speaks about a DEMADA identity which is different to those of Cholas (etc)(FUN).
CHALLENGE STILL REMAINS WIDELY OPENED.
-Muchalinda
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Edited By - Mucha-linda - 17 Nov 2006 02:14:29 GM |
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17 Nov 2006 02:21:20 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mucha,
None of the quotes I made from Dr. Indrapala's new book speaks about a CHOLA identity. IT ONLY TALKS ABOUT DEMADAS/DAMILAS/TAMILS and that is exactly what I mentioned, DEMADA identity, NOT CHOLA identity.
Before the 13th CAD, Tamils lived as Tamils (DEMADAS), **NOT AS CHOLAS**
I repeat one of his quotes,
This book is concerned with the TAMILS WHO LIVED IN SRI LANKA in the early centuries of its history and with the evolution of an ethnic community speaking the TAMIL language in the Northern, Northwestern and Eastern regions of the Island whose decedents in modern times perceive themselves as an ethnic identity that is DIFFERENT from the TAMILS OF SOUTH INDIA as well as other ethnic groups in Sri Lanka.
CHOLAS = TAMILS OF SOUTH INDIA (NOT TAMILS WHO LIVED IN SRI LANKA).
CASE CLOSED.
Edited By - LuLa - 17 Nov 2006 02:46:43 GMT |
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17 Nov 2006 02:30:10 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mucha,
The more and more I quote Sakthi, I can see how much you are getting you are getting annoyed. All your Sakthi bashing has turned into Lula bashing. This is NO FUN, I do not want you to loose your cool. Lets get back to some serious business.
What is your point in coming up with this Vallipuram Gold Plate issue?
Are you trying to prove that the ancient Sinhala-Brahmi is totally different from the ancient Tamil-Brahmi because there is a letter similar to the present day *Dha-yanna* which is NOT found in the Tamil-Brahmi. I wish I had enough time to study about these two Brahmi alphabets in more details.
OR
Are you trying to prove that, Sinhalese, and Buddhists lived in Vallipuram during that period and NOT Tamils?
NObody denies the fact that Buddhists lived in the North, and also, it came under the Anuradapura kingdom, whether it was ruled by a Sinhala dynasty (Tissa/Lambakarana) or by the Tamils.
Here, I would like to quote our friend SHAN who wrote in this thread,
3# Re; Having a Buddhist temple and some inscriptions
How many Buddha statues been erected in NE by the Govt over the last 20 years period?
If you see the SL parliament hansard in 200 years time it will give Sinhala names as Govt agents and govt in the NE.
When Indian Red Cross brought relieve material SLN stopped them in the mid sea. Officers involved in that incident would have been 100% sinhalese name.
So in 200 years time some can conveniently argue that NE population were Sinhalese!
Given the animosity between the Ethnic groups over two millennium finding some inscriptions and temples here and there alone and extrapolating to an extraordinary extent is not acceptable and wont reflect the ethnicity of land. |
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17 Nov 2006 02:46:04 GMT Report for Abuse
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LULA, CHALLENGE STILL REMAINS WIDELY OPENED because of two reasons.
1. Dr. Indrapala in his previus work, has clearly mentioned that those DEMADAS mentioned in chronicles are South Indian Tamils. In his latest book, he speaks further about these DEMADAS on certain other things. If he now argues that these DEMADAS are different to those CHOLAS (etc) of South India, he should specifically mention that, but he has not. Therefore mister, acording to your 'SILENCE DENOTES ACCEPTANCE' belief, what appears is that Dr. Indrapala has not distanced himself from what he said in his previous works.
2. If Dr. Indrapala says that,
Before the 13th CAD, Tamils lived as Tamils (DEMADAS)
why on earth he again says that Tamil Identity emerged only after the 13 CAD.
(FUN).
-Muchalinda
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17 Nov 2006 03:02:39 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dr. Indrapala in his previus work
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha,
If he now argues that these DEMADAS are different to those CHOLAS (etc) of South India, he should specifically mention that, but he has not.
He, he, he, he, he
Therefore mister, acording to your 'SILENCE DENOTES ACCEPTANCE' belief, what appears is that Dr. Indrapala has not distanced himself from what he said in his previous works.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, He, he, he, he, he, Hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, Hooo, hoo, ho, ho, ho.
SAKTHI, WHERE ARE YOU MAN, FRIDAY MORNING IS FILLED WITH JOKES, AT LEAST LOG IN FROM A CYBER CAFÉ.
why on earth he again says that Tamil Identity emerged only after the 13 CAD.
The evolution of the two identities as Sinhalese and Tamils (IN SRI LANKA), assimilating many small social and cultural groups, *REACHED COMPLETION* by 1200, although further assimilation, development and changes would continue in the later centuries. From about this time, there is a marked geographic division between the two identities.
Tamil Identity emerged only after the 13 CAD, AS A SEPARATE NATION IN SRI LANKA with a separate LAND and KINGDOM.
Edited By - LuLa - 17 Nov 2006 03:13:52 GMT |
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