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Disaster if Solheim-Prabha talks fail, warns LTTE
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LuLa
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21 Jan 2006 10:18:03 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dumindak,
Monarawila Kappetipola, Puran Appu, Gongalegoda Banda, Kudapola Rahula thero, Wariyapola Sumangala and a few others were rebels who were easily crushed and were executed very long before Sri Lanka obtained independence.
Did any body fight and succeed in sending the Brits out of the country?
None of their struggle contributed to the Independence of Sri Lanka, it was granted in 1948, only after the British were forced to leave the region due to Gandhi's struggle in India.
In 1948, we got it free, without any sweat, thanks to Gandhi.
Edited By - LuLa - 21 Jan 2006 10:23:08 GMT |
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21 Jan 2006 10:32:37 GMT Report for Abuse
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Lula
It was not because of Gandhi, because of the world war. Infact many countries were given freedom without even asking for specially Middle east countries like Kuwait and UAE.
Gandhi was a critical factor, I agree, but after the world war, between 1945 to 1955 many countries got their freedom.
so we can not attribute everything to Gandhi.
Edited By - dumindak - 22 Jan 2006 04:36:49 GMT |
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21 Jan 2006 10:51:19 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dumindak
Go back and read the Indian freedom struggle, especialy the period. The Middle east countries with huge deserts, it did not serve them any purpose and at that time, they did not know that the mid east countries were filled with black gold (oil). |
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21 Jan 2006 14:27:18 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dumindak,
The geopolitical situation in 1948 was as complex as today.
Empire had to leave India because it was too weakened by WWII, and a revolt by the then Indian Royal Navy showed the limits of the Empire's military might in India.
Gandhi (Gujarati), Bose(Bengali), Nehru (Kashmiri), Birla(Bihari), Tata(Parsi) and also the communists got together to ask Brits to quit India. The Soviets, just across Afghanistan, who were ready to arm India in case of conflict were also an importanat factor.
All in all, Indians managed to make the Empire go.
Empire left with clear intention of returning back, that was why they left the Partition Time Bombe(PTB) in India and 'Tamil Elite' Time Bombe(TETB) in Sri Lanka.
In fact, the servility of the boot lickers was so perfect that Brits were-removed-sure of returning and left without much fuss. Thus in a way, the lickers were a blessing in disguise.
The PTB exploded, and divided India (Pakistan+India) has become a lucrative arms market for the Empire & Co.
With the explosion of TETB, the Empire is making inroads to Lanka thru its proxies.
I hope Tamil and Sinhala people will see the realities before it is too late and irreparable.
Survival of the Tamil people is assured thru Tamil Nadu/Indian Union.
The Sinhala people must be doubly vigilant if they are to survive with dignity. They must exert their capacities to limit because there are very few persons in the world who have 'Live and Let Live' ingrained into their very being. We live in a world of bullies.
They must acquire competencies in Tamil, Hindi, Chinese and English and become traders and men of knowledge, as their ancestors were known for, all over Asia.
If we have the will, we can do it. |
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21 Jan 2006 14:47:03 GMT Report for Abuse
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LuLa: Don David (a clerk) also known as Anagarika Dharmapala, the son of Mr. Don Carolis (carpenter/ furniture dealer) and Mrs. Mallika Hewavitarne was the only leftist who was just barking at the Brits.
LuLa,
Correct yourself : Anagarika Dharmapala born as Don David Hewavitharane.
'Anagarika' means one who left the lay life, including lay name.
You can bark off your fabrications to gullibles, but you cheat one always, many sometimes but not all, all the time.
As for the barking, your Balu in UK is not barking but licking, the old servile Balu.
Dharmapala took refuge in India because SL was infested by too many Baluuuus (Sinhala+Tamil) at that time.
None can extinguish the love for freedom of the Lankans. 99% of the Sinhala people silently resisted by not collborating with the Empire. |
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21 Jan 2006 15:39:29 GMT Report for Abuse
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''In 1948, we got it free, without any sweat, thanks to Gandhi.''
simple as that. man there seems to be a few here that tend to think the lankans fought for independence. got to chk the history books. no wonder there was no patriotism since independence was given on a platter.
LTTE is the one who brought patriotism back. now everyone is very patriotic !! |
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21 Jan 2006 16:09:59 GMT Report for Abuse
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A small contribution from me:
The period of World War 11: 1939 - 1945
One more factor influenced the British withdrawal from the Indian subcontinent:
Before the Americans entered the war, there was a gentlemanly agreement between Churchill and Roosevelt that the British will ease up on the trade restrictions within the Empire. Once they decided to give up India, there was no business for them to be in Sri Lanka.
The question is, were we mature enough to obtain independence? We made a hash of things; did we deserve the independence? |
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Ariyalai_SB,
History is like a boat, make use of it but do not carry it on your back when you have crossed the river ( This was what Buddha said with 'History' replaced by 'Buddha Dharma' ).
Many past leaders did what they thought best. There were many who really had the welfare of the people at heart. But, 200 years of slavery and servility and 500 years unrest make a wreck of any people. We are no exceptions.
Read Vivekananda when you have a moment - an exemplary freedom fighter for me.
We all have to join and work together, with mutual respect, to avoid becoming perpetual failures.
We owe that to our children. |
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21 Jan 2006 17:30:53 GMT Report for Abuse
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ViceSquad,
Quote: (You can bark off your fabrications to gullibles, but you cheat one always, many sometimes but not all, all the time.)Unquote.
Could you tell me where I cheat and where I fabricate???
Is is because I missed the sir name Hewavitarne, which I have used, see his mother's name.
Quote: (The PTB exploded, and divided India (Pakistan+India) has become a lucrative arms market for the Empire & Co.)unquote.
Nonsense, the Indian leaders had a clear vision, if they did not separate a muslim Pakistan, just imagine the blood bath India would have faced today between the Hindus and Muslims. They would have had a never ending civil war.
Quote: ( Survival of the Tamil people is assured thru Tamil Nadu/Indian Union. The Sinhala people must be doubly vigilant if they are to survive with dignity.) unquote.
To the Sinhala people, the Tamils in the island (both in the north-east and in the plantations) as well as over 50 million Tamils in Tamil Nadu across a narrow strip of water, are all Tamils - alien Dravidians who speak a foreign tongue, who profess a different religion and who, most importantly, trace their origins to different roots. The Sinhala people see themselves as a minority in the region and fear invasion and subjugation by an alien Tamil majority and a dominant Tamil culture.
This is an unnecessary fear the Sinhalese are having towards the Tamils. Let me tell you something, even if the Ceylon Tamils of NE join hands with the Sinhalese as they were before and they will someday in the future, they will never, I repeat never join hands or amalgamate with the Tamils of South India.
Quote: (99% of the Sinhala people silently resisted by not collaborating with the Empire) unquote.
This same 99% of the Sinhalese later accepted the 1% bootlikers who were collaborating with the Empire as their leaders and as the Sri Lankan ruling class (the Senanayakes, Bandaranayakes, Jayawardanas, Wijewardhanas, Kothalawalas, and a few others). |
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21 Jan 2006 18:27:22 GMT Report for Abuse
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What they mean by fail is that the Sri Lankan government has to accept the demands of the LTTE. If not it is a failure. Sri Lankan government has not and will not accept an Ealam and no dictatorship. It is out of question.
To succeed the talks the LTTE has to accept pluralism and settle fo ra democratic federal solution. Basta! |
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