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Disaster if Solheim-Prabha talks fail, warns LTTE
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LuLa
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18 Jan 2006 16:24:48 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mathanamuthas,
I like your jokes but if you can control your language(filth)it will look much more interesting. |
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18 Jan 2006 16:38:35 GMT Report for Abuse
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Guys drop the who came first crap.. by any count this pointless debate has been going on since the very first day a Tamil and a Sinhalese joined this forum.. has been going on for over a year and both sides have not been able to prove completely who came first..
The last consensus was the only civilizations that are left in SL that are more than 2000 years old are the Tamil and Sinhalese.. that's more than enough to conclude they're both natives.
As for the topic of this discussion.. If the so called 'Sri Lankans' in this forum want a fair solution, they should find a way to establish a fair and acceptable federal solution. Instead of wasting your timing bashing the LTTE and blindly blaming them for our problems, you should open your eyes and see the whole picture. Someone called Alfred Duriappah as the greatest tamil mayor who ever lived.. I almost fell out of my chair laughing, the absolute ignorance of some people is astounding. I doubt if this person even knows who A. Duriappah was.. Similarly others go on listing so called crimes by the LTTE while ignoring the fundamental reason why these 'crimes' were committed. The simple answer is the LTTE didn't pop out of thin air, and they don't enjoy such overwhelming support from the Tamil people for no reason. I suggest you take a close look at the happenings in Sri Lanka, don't have to go too far back just look at today.. IF the GOSL had followed the CFA there would be no reason for the violence and bloodshed that we see today. The politicians in the south are to blame, they for their own benefit so far have not been genuine in seeking a solution for the ethnic conflict.. Even the party in power was willing to compromise, the opposition have always used the opportunity to either overthrow the government or make sure there were no real progress in peace efforts. |
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18 Jan 2006 16:41:51 GMT Report for Abuse
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Tamil is the premier language among other dravidian languages.
The Dravidian family of languages includes approximately 26 languages that are mainly spoken in southern India and Sri Lanka, as well as certain areas in Pakistan, Nepal, and eastern and central India. Dravidian languages are spoken by more than 200 million people, and they appear to be unrelated to languages of other known families. A few scholars include the Dravidian languages in a larger Elamo-Dravidian language family, which includes the ancient Elamite language of what is now southwestern Iran.
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18 Jan 2006 16:56:30 GMT Report for Abuse
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| There are two problems in Sri Lanka - an ethnic problem and a class problem. They are not the same but are interrelated. Lets face it - the well off whether Sinhla, Tamil or Muslim don't give a damn about the poor. We treat our 'own' ethnic poor like crap - servants in our homes, beggars on the streets, slaves in the MidEast, untouchables and all that vile caste nonsense. We don't even see the poor as human. We would rather identify with the British who raped us or any other Euros rather than sympathize with our own. Meanwhile the elites use ethnic war as a means of perpetuating the enslavement of our own people and maintaining their privileges. The Sinhala elite being the majority elite encroached on the power of the Tamil elite who responded by agitating for federalism and then separation. The Tamil elite then funded the creation of the middle class led LTTE which now dominates Tamil politics. The workers and peasants and poor of all ehtncities will wake up to the divide and conquer games of the elites and there will be a reckoning. |
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18 Jan 2006 17:03:30 GMT Report for Abuse
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Srimal111,
Yes, that's what I believe, they are from the same stock.
As someone said,
Their physical appearance, features, complexion, and many other similarities shows that they may be the same people who drew a line between themselves after adopting two different language, religion and culture due to strong influence from North and South India and later formed into two groups.
Unfortunately due to ignorance, each one considers themselves as superior to the other.
If the two communities can understand each other and their true origin, still there are chances for the Sinhalese and Tamils to forget all the Imaginary mythical differences and live together peacefully as relatives by recognizing and respecting each others adopted language, religion and culture just the way our ancient forefathers did. |
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18 Jan 2006 17:08:16 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mathanamuthas,
I have and always will unconditionally condemn any violence against the Tamil people by State terrorists. But you misunderstand the gist of my comments. The State has also killed many thousands of Sinhala youth in very brutal ways. The State is not a Sinhala State but a neo-colonial capitalist State that represents the interests of the elites. There is no solution in separation in our island - that will only institutionalize 'race' war for millenia. We all need liberation and a new and better society which doesnt just address legal equality between races but social equality of all people. |
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18 Jan 2006 17:14:34 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mathanamuthas,
You are very angry; have you lost anyone personally? I lost one of my brothers in 1986, and I still can't get over it. |
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18 Jan 2006 18:05:28 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mahathanamutha,
after reading a lot of Vimukthi's post i wouldnt put him in the same bucket that the most here are (LTTE bashers). He has always advocated policies more in line with socialism. he even sent a website. i told him back in Dec that the policies he is advocating (If its works fine) is a bit late for the tamils and gave my reasons. asians typically have a me first attitude (capitalist mindset) so his policies will be a hard sell.
Kanthun,
the spirit of your post is not lost and agree with you. but atleast we dont have to deal with the LTTE bashers and have a civilised discussion. At the end of the day its pointless yes, but if you look back most of us here dont play any significant part in the process so atleast lets learn something in the process. |
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18 Jan 2006 18:11:39 GMT Report for Abuse
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Vimukthi,
''The Tamil elite then funded the creation of the middle class led LTTE which now dominates Tamil politics.''
The tamil elite (if there is such a thing) is probably the last group to support the LTTE. The lTTE was born out of shear frustration that nothing could be done towards helping the tamils to achieve parity. |
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18 Jan 2006 18:30:54 GMT Report for Abuse
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Lula...regarding the ancestry of the Muslims of Sri Lanka, there are many Books written on the subject whose copies are with me. These Books comprise of contributions made by intellects from the University of Colombo and Peradeniya, From the records available in South India and also records from certain Arabic Chronicles.
Like your ancestry is shrouded in mystery with Malayala and Tamil connections ours too are a mixture of different Nationalities. Although there had been Malayala Traders in Sri Lanka who probably have got absorbed into the Main Arab Stock whom are called 'Sonahar', the majority of inter-mixing had taken place with the South Indian Muslims. Tamil Language was the Language of Trade at onetime in this region and the Muslims in Sri Lanka has adopted Tamil as the mother Tongue due to convenience being themselves Traders. The Malayalees whom you are talking of had been a handful who had mixed with the Sri Lankan Muslims and if their numbers had been considerably great the Muslims of Sri Lanka would be speaking Malayalam instead of Tamil. It is not necessary to have a tit for tat by trying to bring the Malayalees as our fore-fathers because that was not the case. You should read our Records and Books rather than having your own interpretation. The Malayalam spoken in Calicut(Kolikhode)is not at all related to the dialect of Tamil what we speak in Sri Lanka specially by the Muslims from Colombo up to Matara. The Tamil spoken has a mixture of Arabic and Urdu words and Malayalam is not involved. If there are any words let me know so that we can discuss on that point.
The Jaffna Tamils also have a Malaysian connection because Jaffna was invaded by a Malaysian King named Chandrabanu and many of the warriors with him had settled down in the Peninsular. That is why you would find names Like ChavaKachcheri(Java Kachcheri) and Tamils who resemble the Malays, but with darker shades of Color. |
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