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Air Force ready to shoot down Tiger aircraft, if any
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Mig-29C
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4 Jan 2006 21:03:17 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Lets continue tommorrow then :o)

Take care everybody

Thank you again for a frank candid disscussion
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4 Jan 2006 21:06:28 GMT  Report for Abuse   
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LuLa
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4 Jan 2006 21:11:17 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Maninder, sorry Mig-29C,
I know nothing about aerospace but after reading a few of your posts, I find that you are totally underestimating the LTTE's capabilities and the Technology they posses.
You are saying that if the LTTE aircraft get airborne, the AWACS and the Radar system can detect and track it.
Don't you think that the LTTE is capable of distorting the Radar signals before getting airborne? After all, AWACS is only a radio signal receiver.
Don't you think that with their intelligence capabilities they already posses the blue prints including the exact locations(XY coordinates) of all the fixed radar towers in the NorthEast, and with their GPS controlled heavy artillery, they can locate and damage these Radar towers before getting airborne?

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Rumor is that if the war starts India is going to deploy its IL-96 AWACS aircraft just of the north/east Territorial waters, and offers the capability of locating and localizing any active or passive radar signals, which if fed to Kfir C1/C2 or Mig-27 strike fighters, will be used to strike any radio emitting equipment.
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This is utter nonsense. First of all, India will not disclose such security secrets, and there are many other political issues involved.

Unfortunately, only another person with a knowledge of Aerospace engineering can challenge your speculation.

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A US Navy destroyer is apparently patrolling off the North/East Srilankan coast.. There is chatter between the SL Navy and the Destroyer .. LTTE arms ship sighted of the Mullativu coast .. Things are getting interesting in the subcontinent.
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What a lot of lies Maninder, you seem to be so good at fabricating stories. Do you think your India will be happy if a US destroyer patrols the NorthEast sea? Whom are you trying to fool?
As someone mentioned, who is paying you to write all these rubbish?
Edited By - LuLa - 5 Jan 2006 05:20:10 GMT
dravid
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4 Jan 2006 21:22:27 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Also don't forget about destroying SLAF on the ground, new SAMs, and other asymmetric means ;)
Mig-29C
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5 Jan 2006 10:11:49 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Good Day?

I am by no means overestimating the LTTE, I appreciate the fact that they are a ruthless, determined and very resourceful outfit.. but I do know enough about military aviation to say that the LTTE is incapable and does not posses the technology or the know how to hide the radar signature of their aircraft, barring the microlights. To educate the few that are unaware of how a radar works ? Any aircraft with sharp right angles and rotating propellers and in motion will generate a massive radar spike -- which cannot be masked, because the Zlin Z 143 was never designed for military aviation.. it?s a recreational aircraft.. the motion of the aircraft alone in the air will generate a Doppler shift which can be picked by any bogg standard Doppler Radar, which it so happens is the radar type acquired by SL, low frequency Doppler radar?. Again, these are facts, whether you wish to believe is up you..

These radars don?t need to be mounted on any towers, because their low frequency, they can be mounted miles away from the battlefront, even in the capital? The LTTE does not posses the capability, or more there artillery is incapable of striking a target that far out. Further, the AWAC?s stands for (Airbore Early Warning and Control).. hypothetically if the LTTE is able to take out the SLAF radar capability, the AWACs will detect these aircraft and can guide fighters to intercept. Unless the LTTE wishes to commit a serious international incident by attempting to take out the AWAC?s

The limit of the territorial waters of India extends to twelve nautical miles measured from the appropriate baseline. This is an internationally documented fact.. And if you wish to look at the Indian ocean, srilankas north/east is outside that domain, and further out is in international waters.. The destroyer is there.. if you don?t believe me, that?s fine, that?s your opinion, just smile.. Again time will tell :o)

With regards to the use of the Indian AWAC?s, this as I mentioned in an earlier post is not a top secret, you might be unware of the changes to political alliances in the sub-continent as of recent, the Indians and the US now have certain common agenda?s, SL is one of them.. again you don?t have to believe me, I never asked anyone to, I?m just talking about knowledge that is or will be soon circulating around..

The Indian AWAC?s has always made routine runs just of the north/east terrortorial waters, its not purely for srilanka?s sake, its been Indian tactical doctrine for a while, there is nothing sinister about it.. however, whilst its on patrol looking out for Indian interests, if it detects LTTE naval and air activity during a potential war, that information will be now be passed..

I would say please do not overestimate and harbour any romantic notions about the strength of the LTTE airwing, it faces a very daunting task, its up against a far superior and more experienced adversary.
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5 Jan 2006 10:12:26 GMT  Report for Abuse   
But hey.. they are good at pulling rabbits out of the bag :o)

With regards to ?new SAMs, and other asymmetric means? ? I believe it?s a smoking gun.. but time will tell?.
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5 Jan 2006 10:45:56 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Possessing an air capability is very different to having a land or sea capability, an aircraft does not have the luxury of being protected by armed human combatants the way a ground or sea asset is. If these aircraft fly they will be bought down.. make now mistake..
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5 Jan 2006 10:54:39 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Mig,
Appreciate your input.
As everybody talks about or dream about this Air power of tigers, I think we must pay a bit more attention to their power in the sea. Specially the capability of carrying out attacks by means of mini submarines. SL forces has more than enough power to nullify an air attack(by tigers with jets.. ain't it poet? ;-)) but i doubt it is the case with underwater attacks. If there is a war the power in the sea is really important. So better equipped than sorrow.
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5 Jan 2006 11:08:04 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Sea is our field since centuries...
Mig-29C
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5 Jan 2006 11:11:39 GMT  Report for Abuse   
The naval aspects are important in any conflict .. however that is not my area of expertise, as a result I cannot really comment on any LTTE underwater capability.. However on surface threats, as I mentioned earlier, the AWACs is able to detect certain sized naval units.. and as a result can coordinate an attack using Mig-27?s or Kfir?s .. It would be interesting to see how long that US destroyer is on patrol, if there is a certain policy shift in Washington, the US navy could be cropping up more often at the edge of SL territorial waters.. Hypothetically, their search and track sonar and radar are far more advanced and are more than capable of tracking undersea activity?

I guess again time will tell? China?s rise on the superpower ladder is making certain hawkish policy thinkers in Washington seriously reconsider SL and trincomolee.. China has a formidable airforce now and its navy is gather strength .. Rumours have it that their about to acquire the newest Akula Class Fast Attack Nuclear subs.. deadly boats, a serious match for US -SeaWolf- Fast Attack subs
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