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Mig-29C
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4 Jan 2006 09:27:46 GMT Report for Abuse
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| What you need to ask yourself is .. Will India allow jaffna to fall! |
LankaTileke
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4 Jan 2006 13:42:35 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mig-29C,
You sound a boy come from India, or must be from BCG school, SL.
I had a friend sounds like you. Arent you that short fair guy?
I think you r on the point.
India wants Jaffna to be controlled by a party that is loyal to India.
Considering SL government and LTTE, a kindergarten student will say who is loyal to India.
At least, India wants Palali airport and Polk channel to be controlled by SL government and wont let to a considerable link between LTTE and Thamilnadu.
I can let you know still more but this is enough I think. |
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4 Jan 2006 14:15:23 GMT Report for Abuse
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I am not a srilankan, my interest in this conflict is purely academic.. however i do have very good thamil and sinhalease friends who are fellow collegues, and from them i have gathered quite alot about this conflict.
As i mentioned earlier my proffession as an aerospace engineer, with a close link to military aviation is the main reason for myself learning about and following this conflict.
India's strategic interest in this region are indeed very interesting and worth discussing in another forum.. My main reason for taking part in this particular discussion thread was purely as a result of the nature of the topic.
I do have close ties with the IAF as a result of my companies business dealings.. Hence i am somewhat aware of certain chatter in IAF circles. Again i have to point out that any IAF involvement in this conflict in the future is not a secret . |
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4 Jan 2006 14:26:17 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mig29c,
you dont happen to know maninder or are you him:)
I am not a military strategist or anything close to it but this is how i see it. As far as i can see the Air war will be very limited. the only weak point in the LTTE arsenal is the air. once they disable the air power of the rent-a-pilot-outfit-airforce then it will be a ground war. Jaffna is pretty much cut off from a land point of view and the air route is the quickest way to get supplies.
India has its own issues. back in 00 india offered ships to ferry SLA troops to the south. things might have changed since but i doubt it very much. indians politics is very muddled.
Pak warns India not to interfere. Although i dont have a great affection for the paks they sometimes provide an effective counterweight.
-http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7598_1589777,000500020000.htm- |
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4 Jan 2006 14:48:40 GMT Report for Abuse
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As a point of disscussion: how exactly do you see the LTTE dissabling the SLAF??
The only option LTTE has of preventing SLAF air activity is by destroying SLAF runaways.. which if considering, the war does start will be extremely difficult taking into account the tight 'i assume' SL security around Air assets and airfields.. As i mentioned earlier the LTTE i believe is incapable of an aerial assault on the main airbase, primarily because of its location.. its too far from iranamadu.. The other option is another homicide mission on the main airbase as the LTTE successfully carried out previously. However again, this would be difficult assuming new security measures in place around the main air bases. In a similar analysis, LTTE airpower would be completely negated if iranamdu is destroyed.. If however LTTE aircraft try to use forest clearings or roads to get airborne, they are very Susceptible while taking off and in transport to a new runaway.
I disagree that this will confined to a land war around jaffna.. i think the SLAF will have a big part to play in this new furture conflict.. In addition i dont think the LTTE will be capable of completely stopping air supplies to jaffna.. Further more, i believe the SLAF will play a more active role in preventing LTTE ground forces advancing.. |
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4 Jan 2006 15:06:41 GMT Report for Abuse
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Ignorance is bliss ...
If anyone that would like to comment and challenge my views please do so in a civil manner.. i have not taken part in any personal attacks on anyone in this forum, i am offering a point of view based on my experience in military aviation, as a result i would appreciate the same dignity..
If anyone would like to challenge me on the merits of LTTE airpower vs SLAF airpower please go ahead, but try and limit it to an intellectual discussion..
To the individual that posed the question 'The jet engine has a heat signature' .. My friend are you aware of exactly how the heat seeker on missile works??? And are you also aware of the present conutermeasures in place on a standard Mig-27 and Kfir C1/C2 fighter?? If so please indulge me... |
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| A homicide mission is the newly drafed term for a suicide mission since of February 2003 .. The intent to destroy and kill, property and humans by self sacrifice. |
tamilcanuck
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4 Jan 2006 15:37:47 GMT Report for Abuse
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''As a point of disscussion: how exactly do you see the LTTE dissabling the SLAF?? ''
i havent got a clue. This is my theory. how will they go about it is anyones guess. The LTTE has always surprised the Greatest of analysts in the past and going by their track record i have no doubts that an alternative will be found or has been found.
The last time the Kfirs and migs were used they never had precision guided weapons. They were used to harrass the population by indescriminate bombing. I dont think things have changed much.
The biggest Air base in the country was at Katunayake. Height of the war after LTTE repulsed the SLA in april 01.Operation aghni gheela. LTTE warned GOSL in Jun 01 to stop bombing. July 01 was d-day for KIA. Some serious lax in Security :) the airbase is situated next the to the international airport for the safety of the AIRBASE and not the other way around. Dont compare the Indian AF who have fought wars with China (well a one sided one at that) and Pak, Bang etc to the rent-a-pilot-outfit the GOSL seems to pass off as SLAF.
expat good to have you around. |
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4 Jan 2006 15:42:47 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mig-27
Do you know where the LTTE gets aero technical support from?
Is it from African countries? |
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4 Jan 2006 16:24:31 GMT Report for Abuse
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I never attempted to compare the SLAF with the IAF, and its true, in terms of combat experience they are not comparable. However your estimation of LTTE airpower is unfounded and overrated, by comparison the LTTE airforce has no combat experience whatsoever and no experience in low level bombing. However they might have limited experience in low level flying..
I guess we will have to wait and see how the LTTE uses it air assets, like you have stated they do not follow the ordinary.. However your assumption that they have already found a way to attack the main airbase is again a little premature at the moment, considering the track record of the SL forces, how have thus far always underestimated the LTTE, will be planning for everything, again ?assuming..?
The Mig-27 and Kfir C1/C2 will not require precision guided weapons to attack LTTE troop formations or runaways.. They can be used in a similar manner to the way USAF used its F-4G phantoms and F-100 SuperSabre on Vietcong positions in Vietnam. The problem is if the LTTE decides to fight a conventional war, the SLAF can do some considerable damage. The key for the LTTE will be how to advance into jaffna if they are somehow able to neutralize SL Army forward defences.
Further adding, SLAF pilots will not need any experience in being able to use information handed down by Indain AWAC?s. All the AWAC?s will do is pinpoint the location of ground based radio transmitters, airborne or sea threats. What the SLAF lacked until now has been reliable accurate data regarding positions of LTTE military assests. This will change dramatically with the introduction of IL-96 AWAC?s. |
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