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Mig-29C
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12 Jan 2006 12:33:55 GMT Report for Abuse
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As far as im aware, nothing is dead .. The Indo-lanka accord does not pertain to US being welcomed by the SL central government to establish a base in Trincomolee .. And, it appears again that your on the offensive, you have singled me out for some apparent reason.. your not very good at listening are you .. but if you carry on insisting that i'm Indian so be it .. it?s a mute point to argue with someone whos already made up there mind..
Secondly.. please do not attempt to white wash the crimes of the LTTE with regards to this assassination .. if it is your view that this organisation did not commit this crime, then your ignorant and arrogant of the findings of the Indian goverment and the international community.. Yet you appear to be very quick in passing judgement and a verdict on others without the evidence to corroborate..
Unfortunately Miss or Mrs .. Your very set in your beliefs, true facts will not matter to you, therefore it is very difficult to have a rational argument or discussion with you.. Thanks |
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12 Jan 2006 13:30:22 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear Mic29c
i apologize if i have misunderstood about your ethnic origin,I'm sure we did not have a direct conversations before and i only had a quick scan through your posts and assumed you are Indian.
OK,i will forget about your ethnicity and it is not the matter of concern anymore.
if lanka-indo accord is not dead, then Indians are far more happy to find a middle ground with USA on trinco issues?
on the other hand lanka will not abide by any negotiations at all times but the USA may.so India might find it comfortable with USA to negotiations.
(I'm aware about India's developments with USA and the interest of becoming a permanent security council member but trinco going to the USA?)
Rajive's murder?
you seems to suggest that i should believe the Indian justice system ,unfortunately i will not trust them, the reason behind my concern is about the IPKF massacred Tamil civilians in the 1980s.
IPKF or Indian government did not tell the truth to the Tamils in lanka about their intentions ,while invading N&E WITHOUT the Tamils consent remains a crime and asking the Tamils to trust the Indian justice system is something more than the limit.
you must be aware of the point why the conflict started
for example
1)sinhala only act
2)1948 constitution changed without the Tamils consent
3)constitution changed again to give Buddhism as the state religion,(that means they can build Buddha statue in any where in lanka.
4)1983 riots
5)ethnic cleansing and sinhala settlements in Tamils areas and homes.
knowing all these events took place in lanka history and supporting a state who terrorize the Tamils systematically is absolutely blindness of other countries. |
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12 Jan 2006 13:49:21 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mic29c
i have posted these points before with a senior well respected member in this forum when we were agree to disagree.
I'm quite happy to post them again to you.by looking the past history of lanka the Tamils were absolutely on the right side and have a noble reason to fight the government of lanka with all means what they are capable of.the ltte is the bi product of Tamils grievances and they are made of non other than the lankan Tamils.
long time ago nonviolent Mr.chelva the Tamil politician negotiated peace full solutions called B-C, D-C PACTS, TO This ethnic conflict and those negotiation were torn and one prime minister was shot dead by a Buddhist monk for his commitment to the peace solution.
now the government of lanka have the ltte who can speak their language quite fluently and they understand ltte better than the non violent chelva.chelva did not ask for a separate country.
here we go how the Sinhalese systematically cleansed us with violent.
* To give the Sinhalese permanent political power which they will never lose again and remove the political power from the Tamils.
(constitution change)
* To give the Sinhalese economical power and remove it from the Tamils.
* To remove any possibility that Tamils in the future having an independent country in the future
(steady politics is the base for success business which only support singalees with sinhala only act)
* To give the Sinhalese 'their country' unified and whole back and remove any external countries which may challenge the status.
(there were two power points at one time united without tamils consent and worried about india or tamilnadu and protected by exucutive president powers.non bhuddist cannot be a president,the present constitution does not give any space to tamils to practice democracy and it is protected by executive president powers.)
do i still need to trust some one who do not know the tamils grievances?
Edited By - tigeress19 - 12 Jan 2006 14:16:29 GMT |
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12 Jan 2006 14:18:38 GMT Report for Abuse
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With the legal system available in lanka the president cannot be challenged,opposition parties are power less and have to wait for an other six years to grab the president post by hook or crook.
Edited By - tigeress19 - 12 Jan 2006 14:20:46 GMT |
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12 Jan 2006 14:25:22 GMT Report for Abuse
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Tigress,
dont waste your time here. have you seen that this thread has run its course. |
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12 Jan 2006 16:15:36 GMT Report for Abuse
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| What's your point tusky?? or did you just post in the wrong thread as usual? |
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12 Jan 2006 21:16:00 GMT Report for Abuse
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As I?ve said before..
(1) Im not srilankan, as a result my grasp of the history behind the present conflict has been obtained from reading written, video/CD/DVD material and speaking to people from both sections of the divide.. I have read and seen a considerable amounts of pro-LTTE, pro Eelam literature and seen several of their videos.. in the same vein I have read and seen material from the sinhalease viewpoint.. I have also read several books dating from the colonial periods in SL about the history of SL from a Dutch viewpoint, and some from a Portuguese viewpoint.. the summary of this is that my viewpoints are established from my own research..
(2) Im a defense person and my knowledge and experience is prevalent to that arena, because of the nature of my work I have connections in various defense circles, and as a result am aware of certain polices and information relating to the military situation in SL .. and to highlight again, nothing I reveal in this forum is considered TOP SECRET?
Therefore, mentioning the above, it is pointless to get into any discussion with you about the thamil/sinhalease issues you have highlighted ? because for one, the issues you have highlighted have been repeatedly mentioned by several, several thamil people about thamil grievances in srilanka.. This issue from my observation appears to trigger serious deep rooted sentiment, which will not help when trying to conduct a rationale discussion..
I have my viewpoints from my research .. however it appears none of what you have mentioned is endemic to SL, these issues are also prevalent in every other society, Indian, Chinese, American, british .. the list goes on .. nothing the thamils of srilanka have experienced is any different to what other minorities have experienced in other countries.. This is my viewpoint, you may ferociously disagree, your entitled to, but this is my assessment from reading both histories ..
However I would like to correct you on one of you statements.. you said (chelva did not ask for a separate country) .. the answer is yes he did ..
-- On November 26, 1947, Mr. S. J. Chelvanayagam said ?Why cant we, the thamils have a right to secede from the rest? .. this was offered not after the sinhala only act in 1956, but even before independence in 1948..
-- In the 1952 elections.. Mr. S. J. Chelvanayagam said ?if the thamil people return a federalist candidate, it will be an alternative to a plebiscite and it will convince the sinhalease people and the whole world that the thamils are determined to be free. If the thamils show their determination to be free, no one can keep them down?.. once again, this statement was uttered before 1956..
-- Mr Suntheralingam ? 1952 ? was the first politician to fight the general elections in 1952 calling for the establishment of thamil eelam. This also occurred before 1956.. |
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12 Jan 2006 21:21:51 GMT Report for Abuse
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These concepts of a separate state have been floating around for awhile .. The eventual fact is the srilankans better find a way to reconcile the past and move forward as one.. or be left behind to languish as a 3rd world nation for a long time while your neighbours make rapid advances forward .. the saddest fact will be if (SL will be remebered as the country that had it all, but could never get it together)
Just to add that im sure this post will stir considerable activity and debate amongst tha thamil colletive in this forum .. at the end of the day im a foreigner, what would I know about SL rite :o) .. Till again .. C you all |
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13 Jan 2006 01:20:44 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mig-29C, the LTTE is not for federalism. The SL government may be forced into accepting federalism but do you think the US will directly get involved in 'taming the tiger' and end up successful in getting the LTTE to accept what the US dictates?
Edited By - kiwikanga - 13 Jan 2006 01:22:13 GMT |
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13 Jan 2006 08:38:14 GMT Report for Abuse
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MIG29-29C your arguments have hands and legs...way to go. If you are not a SL, i respect your interest. And it is good to know that there are others in this world who have a better picture of the situation than the SL Sinhalese and the Tamils.
Hats off to you sir. |
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