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Fairplay
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21 Sep 2005 14:01:10 GMT Report for Abuse
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Merit ? Merit ? Merit ??
It's ajoke in Sri lanka.
Corrupted politicians will never give room to the notion of Merit.
They have never ever. |
Fairplay
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21 Sep 2005 18:18:43 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear All,
Equal rights begins with Tolerance.
Tolerance begins with studying and appreciating our differences; and then learning to embrace others.
Please tell me who has done this and who is willing to do this.
This notion of Tolerance has to start at the state level and constituted to be enforced before it is practised among all communities.
Tamils mostly went out of their way to learn Singhala.
Singhalese did not do this.The superiority comlex never let them do it.
Many have abused the notion of Tolerance for their advantages and benefits only. I am not discounting the humane acts and services rendered during 83 riots.
This is a natural reaction. But in day to day life Tolerance has not been exercised by the majority and stands an obstacle to equal rights, peace and harmony.
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22 Sep 2005 03:12:54 GMT Report for Abuse
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TiggaLivzinAu,,
Let SK63 answer your questions . I have a question for you, who is running these Brothels and porn movies and who are the patrons for these Brothels? I did not know there are Singhalese prostitutes and Pimps hanging around in Jaffna. Do you have a list of how many women were raped by SLA and the robberies taking place and who does it in Jaffna?
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22 Sep 2005 03:46:17 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear TiggaLivin Au,
I will answer your questions to the best of my ability. The website does not let me cut and paste your post and reply under each query. So the format of my response may not exactly match your question. But you will understand.
1. LTTE after 83.
I agreee with you. It was 83 riots that made LTTE popular. Many times (even in 83) some of us condemned 83 riots. Frankly Tigga I am embarrassed as a Sinhalease that we had 83 riots. It was a national shame. However it was not by Sinhalease it was political thugs. Hope you are aware of it.
As for the LTTE role afterwards, I have a different view point. LTTE in my view capitalized the plight of those 83 riots victims. They did what Sinhalease (and Tamil) politicians do. They sold the destiny of those victims to raise money. OIt is hard to determine if that was a part of the liberation struggle or a manipulation of 83 riots victims to gain political mileage. I reckon it would be more a matter of opinion than a fact.
2. Tigers laying down arms and their safety
For starters, I am not sure if the govt or the tiger are serious about laying down arms. Govt does not expect and tigers do not expect to lay down their arms. However, if they do, the govt will have to guarantee safety. It will be like the safety the govt seem to provide to many dissidents including Karuna. It has to be a part of the agreement and the govt has to abide by that.
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22 Sep 2005 03:59:00 GMT Report for Abuse
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3. Tamils in North East and a fair deal
Getting a fair deal to Tamils is well accepted by the majority of Sinhalease and many politicians. There is no issue on that. It is the way that has to be done. It is my belief that Tamils will be and should be given a fair deal with or without tigers.
This is how I look at it. With tigers around Tamils are worse off. Their presence certainly served some purpose. But now tigers are more an impediment than a catalyst for Tamils. The plight of North East Tamils if anythig has deteriorated since mid 80s and some of us feel strongly about it. Without tigers and through proper democratic channels they will be far better off.
4. Criminals punished by Tigers before Army capturing Jaffna
Tigga, I am sure tigers efforts were well intentioned. But the law has to be carried out by proper authorities and a proper judicial system, not by some Kangaroo courts. (No disrespect Tigga). Their punishments (as both of us know) are not the civilized way of dealing with criminals. Of course the civilized system has its own flaws. But I would rather have a proper judicial syatem ttaking care of such matters than some armed organisation with its own ideas of judiciary.
5. Brothels, porn houses etc
Tigga, as you know I am not in a position to share any view on the existence of such establishments. But if they are there and if Tamil civilians patronise them, I suppose we cant do much about it. It is upto those idividuals I suppose. If they indeed go to those places, years of discipline tigers have apparently tried to instill has not yielded the desired results. So whom are we going to blame? the govt? tigers? or the individuals who go to these places?
Thanks Tigga. By the way, I truly appreciate your views and queries. It is a pleasure chatting with you. It is a crying shame, we can not have this discussion, by the beach in VVT, or Batti, or Trinco, over a drink, like true friends. |
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22 Sep 2005 04:33:20 GMT Report for Abuse
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Fairplay ,
Who is demonstrating tolerance, Singhalese or Tamils? Twenty five years ago in 1983 Singhalese thugs instigated by your favorite Singhalese Political Party UNP led by the uncle of your dear leader Ranil massacred the Tamils. Did it ever repeat a week , a month, a year, or for 25 damn years in the south soil? It did not happen because the Singhalese civilians will never allow such a thing to happen again . That is why the JRJ led SLA went all the way to North and East to do their dirty jobs because promoting such violence would promote more resistance which was good for their arms deals but the idiots never thought that it would go out of control. The UNP messed up the whole democratic political system in this country where your dear leader is part of the plot.
UNP members like Syril Mathew and Gamini Dissanayake set fire to the Tamil heritage the Jaffna Library in 1981 giving more reasons for Tamils to stand up against Singhalese Chauvinists and fight for a separate State. In this so called Singhalese Buddhist Chauvinistic nation their most precious place of worship was attacked in 1998, the sacred Dalada Malige . Did Singhalese retaliated? NO. If Singhalese nationalism as we see for instance in India was the cause of ethnic violence it should have been repeated every time such an assault was inflicted on their interests . It did not. So what it shows is that the Singhalese are a nationality enriched in Buddhist philosophy , valuing the human lives and democratic way of life the basic concepts of Buddha?s philosophy, had been subjected to harassment of four centuries of European colonialism, and been forced to continue the 19th century European philosophy dictated by the International Bourgeoisie following 1948 Independence which brought our country to this state.
If for 25 years , a quarter century the Singhalese civilians had allowed the ethnic minority the Tamils and their representatives LTTE who is waging a war against them for a same period of time and killed their President , presidential candidates , senior Ministers of the governing party and attempted to kill their President partially blinding her live in the south , and had tolerated this, there should not be any doubt about their tolerance in the future ,the desire to live in harmony and mutual cooperation of the Singhalese majority of this country.
At the same time 25 years after 1983, when a Tamil Barber was killed in Jaffna by a Singhalese soldier and the exact reason is yet unknown but all the speculation from both sides ,and Tamils abducted and killed the Senior Superintendent of the Police who came unarmed to find out what happened where was the Tamil decency and Tolerance?
Fairplay ,
You can play the game very fair only when you identify your self who you are!
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22 Sep 2005 13:56:02 GMT Report for Abuse
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Tigga,
What ever you do, dont jeopardise your career and work because you have to answer a post on this website. I really mean it. I assume you are in Aus. So you will see this post first. take your time and please answer only when you have time.
This is not a competition of queries and replies. Tigga, only when you have time please. Nobody here would think any less of you if there is a delay in replying.
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22 Sep 2005 18:34:59 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear Magha,
You have a good argument in terms of highlighting the UNP as a party bringing a total disarray of the democratic political system. I agree with you on that.
Besides,Tolerance was nullified by both UNP and SLFP.
Tamils tolerated the majority until 1977 from the time of Independance.
In 1977 when SLFP was decimated to a mere 8 seats in the parliament, UNP ers were jubilating but the SLFP ers unable to accept defeat in a grand scale and being Intolerant of TULF's 22 seats in the parliament and their qualification to Official opposition status attacked the Tamils and torched businesses and burnt Tamil mudalalis alive in Colombo. This is no secret.
So UNP and SLFP have their equal share in decimating the Tamils.
Compassion by the gerneral public may it be singhalese or muslims or anybody during 1983 is very much apprecuiated.
It has to last long.
I have read many comments in this forum of how singhalese have helped the Tamils during 1983.That is appreciated.
On the contrary they do have their own reservations when it comes to Rights and Issues. The mindset changes.
Kadirgamar being sidelined from the limelight,not given the PM post is a clear example of this mindset in totality.
This is why Mr.Thondaman senior played his cards very well. If not for him the estate Tamils will be languishing in the same state as the Tsunami victims now.
The reason for non violent acts perpetrated aginst Tamils in the south is that the ruling governments after the 1983 riots brought state rule and law enforcement forbiding any kind of harm to the Tamils as the International Community was more concerned and apprehensive of governments actions against the minority Tamils.
These governments were so cautious and strategically planned for maintaing the GOODWILL of the nation to borrowing and begging for donations in the name of economic development in the country.
THIS WAS NOT DONE FOR THE LOVE OF TAMILS.
SSP charlie's matter has to dealt with in the right context and as you say I cannot make any judgements as well.
Tamils decency will remain and prevail.
If you call the Militants to be decent, I believe you are setting a double standard for Militants Vs.Our Armed forces.
Even today Ranil is trying to team up with CBK. This again is for the love of Power and Position that will enable peace ,harmony and prosperity to maintain their stay in positions and comfort.
I am a UNP supporter and a Tamil as well. Peace and harmony is what I love. Ranil is promising that and he is able to deliver that if he is elected the President.
As a Tamil I cannot be fooled and will not allow anybody to fool me. This comes from my years of experience.
I would be careful with those who are smooth and persuasive. If this is called Tolerance, I am sorry this is deception.
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22 Sep 2005 19:12:03 GMT Report for Abuse
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Fairplay,
Thanks for your reply. It helps for a constructive dialogue. For me Ranil and Mahinda both are deceiving the nation. |
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