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Norway blocking Government efforts to corner LTTE
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KURAL Senior Member
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22 Aug 2005 17:32:57 GMT Report for Abuse
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Saintclair,
thanks sir to educate indian .
Edited By - KURAL - 22 Aug 2005 17:34:42 GMT |
jay-r Senior Member
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22 Aug 2005 17:44:09 GMT Report for Abuse
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Ahhh11 the so called educated intellectuals do not like theoretical explainations from any one!
SUPERIORITY COMPLEX that eliminates the Hindus one by one! |
Lioncub
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22 Aug 2005 18:11:12 GMT Report for Abuse
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Reading many comments here i can realize within us there are so many conflicts but still we are ready to learn and listen.
But what I am not sure is whether we can trust LTTE still with their past acts!!!
That is the doubt many Sinhala parties are having. Even we can forget everything, all killings etc if LTTE can show their true willingness to come to a true peace process.
OK many blame politicians and their true dedication for peace process. There is a truth in that respect as well.
That is why I am telling both parties were NOT INTERESTED IN ATTAINING TRUE PEACE! THEY PREFERED TO TALK SOMETHING TO FORGET EVERYTHING ELSE.
During past years what LTTE wanted was only to become super power of Tamils rather than their true voice. If they really keen on that they could have supported some flexible solution to distribution of Tsunami aid.
I think there is one way to overcome fears of LTTE. As some one wrote here (I forgot who and when), LTTE should dis arm provided they were given security by another national or UN forces. That is not to kill or haress LTTE but to protect them from all para military minority Karuna and SLA if they attemt to do so. But this is a real dream.
Why many sinhalese are not happy with Norway is the way they handled all violations by LTTE and also putting pressure on GOSL to violate its constitution and providing hi tech equipment to LTTE.
If Norway was able to refrain at least from providing such facilities to LTTE, we could have had more trust towards them.
We can blame to the existing constitution until some one start ammending it through proper ways and means.
Until then we have to abide to it.
If GOSL was pushed to violate its constitution, how civilians can trust both these parties!!
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shan Senior Member
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22 Aug 2005 18:57:28 GMT Report for Abuse
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Hi Indian Srilankan
If you want to be in business in other states and if other states speak Hindi you learn and speak Hindi and if they speak gujarati you speak gujarati or any language they speak. If a north indian do a bussiness in tamil nadu he should speak in Tamil.
Why do you enjoy by promoting Hindi? What do achieve? I been to chennai several times and I have seen people from all parts of India and speak Tamil.
Tamils in SriLanka can speak in Sinhala and they are good in it.
You are expecting Tamils in Tamil nadu to speak in Hindi and Tamils in N&E of SriLanka to speak in Sihala. What for?
In 2045 China will be the largest economy in the world and will be the largest population with the mother tongue of Chinease. If you all start speaking in chinese you can do business in that whole region. India plus China. Will India promote that?
English has reached the status as world language. Do you want Hindi to reach that status? Even if the whole India starts speak in Hindi will it be world language?
In the EU do they promote one language over other? Dont they enjoy better life than India? Do they have child labour and sh*t in a street? Do they live in slums?
It is your attitude my dear! Slavery for nothing. I believe You cannot be an Indian Indian but you are a Indian Srilankan.
Sri Lankan Tamil can live any where and will learn any language including Sinhala at their will but not by force. Don?t think that Prabaharan is fighting because he wants to be PM of Tamil Eelam. |
saintclair Senior Member
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22 Aug 2005 19:11:04 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear shan,
I think Mr.Indian doesn't have any proper knowledge about sri lanka and it is regrettable to read his poor but useless facts on Hindi language for Tamils and sinhalese language for tamils in Noth and Northeast.
I don't from where he got all these stupid ideas and let us pardon him for his poor knowledge.
However, even a Sri Lanka Indian tamils is more intelligent than this poor Indian.
I don't understand why he is so hurting about tamils living in all over the world . Can't he open up his eyes in UK whered millions of millions Indians from India living inlcuding those kashmire Muslims and shiks.
He should understnd that Tamils who are highly educated have all the rights to live anywhere they wish. |
tigeress19 Senior Member
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22 Aug 2005 19:12:55 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear indian
1)you said i live in n.america and why i live there?
*where i live is my choice but the problem is,as long as im faithfull to my mother land that will do to me.
2)you said,even after lot of fight against hindi,you started to learn hindi,for more opportunities.
that means to me,the hindi language was not compulsary,if you want to learn for more opportunities you can on your own will.at the same time tamil medium schools existed and the people who were willing to learn in tamil did have a choice too.so the people who studied in tamil can only work in tamil nadu.
there is nothing wrong with that system.
like you said if you study more than one language it will give you more opportunity to live and work in a different world.
but in sri lanka it is a different story.we did not have to learn sinhalam,and sinhalees did not have to learn tamil.
in my oppinion lanka law makers should have made those two language compulsary for all citizens in lanka for the country's unity.more importantly tamil nadu had it's own assembly or parliament since independant,india adopted a federal solution to their problem and every citizens enjoyed freedom.so the language did not put so much weight on their shoulder.
but indian, we the lankan tamils did not enjoy the freedom like you had since independent.there is a different.
3)you siad ltte is a terrorist.
*can you tell me what IPKF did in our eelam indian?if you were not terrorist,
*can you tell me why you pulled IPKF from eelam?
*if you were not terrorist can you tell me,why you did not take lanka to the international war criminal court at the hauge in 1983?
*will you give an inch of land to pakistan from your side of kashmere?
*what did you do to bangaladesh?
*if you were not terrorist, the pakistanis will not be given asylam in western world,there is more pakistani origin in the western world than what in pakistan.
*if you were not a terrorist, why the prime minister and the iron lady of india called indra ghandi was shot by sigh a body guard of the minister in her home.
*why did you invade maldives,nepal and so on?
will you say your government is a terrorist government?
you will not,because the government was elected by the people of india.but it does not mean you can carry out terrorism in the neighbouring countries.
it is exactly the same way the ltte is made of ,real people the eelam people.fighting oppression and occupation.
they are nothing more than a FREEDOM FIGHTERS.
4)you said how come kathikamar became a minister and being a tamil?
*kathir born to tamil parents but he was brought up in sinhala areas.
*kathir is a christian ,so it will not make any different where he lives.
*the most importantly,kathir was not an elected member of parliament by the people.instead he was appointed by the president.
if he was elected by sinhalees or tamils then i will say yes you are quite correct.he was used by the government against tamils.(that is his choice any way) |
tigeress19 Senior Member
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22 Aug 2005 19:18:06 GMT Report for Abuse
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Hi indian
im only allowed 3000 words in this forum,i hope i have answered all your questions,at the same time if you disagree with any of my points please do not hesitate to post me.
thank you for talking part in this forum. |
shan Senior Member
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22 Aug 2005 21:26:21 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear Saintclair
TNX
Hey Sinhala Indian
I have met many Indians including Indian Tamils. No one is ready to lose their identity as you were painting. Thamilan is Thamilan and Malayali is Malayali and Marati is Marati and so on. Every one is equal partner. Only 35% have mother tongue as Hindi.
Indian central GOVT has NO hidden agenda at this moment or open agenda by making a law to make India as Hindi nation.
This is the first time I see an Indian reading this forum and writing for ?nothing. I have my doubt! |
Lioncub
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22 Aug 2005 22:35:22 GMT Report for Abuse
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Tigeress I do not agree with your language point. It is totally incorrect. In Sri Lanka Sinhalese have to learn Tamil specially health professionals where they will not be given salary increments or grades if they fail Tamil (there are other subjects too). It is the same for Tamil doctors too. Problem in SL is,there may be many Tamil teachers who can teach Sinhala but not many who can teach Tamil to sinhala students. When I was a student at grade 6 I learned Tamil at School. Teacher was a Muslim and he had to look after all classes in addition to other subjects.
Why do we need so many languages to a single small country like SL?? How it is in UK, France, China, Netherlands, Sweden, Germany???? Being so much populated and having so much mixture of minority they use their own language for everything.
Even in SL, I know many Tamils can speak Sinhala very well and vice versa too.
Sri Lanka has 3 official languages. Sinhala, Tamil and English. All important documents and everything are in all 3 languages. Even Tamil minority have their own freedom to learn everything in Tamil and exams are also conducted in Tamil.
In University entrance Tamils follow everything in Tamil. According to District basis one wrote a few weeks back about how NE Tamils are affected and Jay r or some one responded to it very well. I have to add one thing because of District basis, from Nuwara Eliya student can enter to a medical faculty with 200 marks in spite of Colombo student failing even with 300! (these values may not be exact now due Z score huta pata).
I think in SL Tamils entertained all benefits equality and everything many years back. But Everything turned to separate Sinhalese from Tamils due to a small fraction of inferiority complex superiority complex from both sides. However Tamils put everything in to minority account though they were common to all Sri Lankans! I am repeating this excuse me for that. |
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