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Mucha-linda
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7 Sep 2005 01:32:59 GMT Report for Abuse
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TIGRESS 19:
Most of these postings are not supposed to mean anything to a CHILD like you. So, do not stress yourself too much if you cannot understand them. As I previously said, please copy them on to a CD and read probably in 5 years time. Everything should be fine by then.
SO..EAT A LOT. DRINK LOTS OF MILK. AND TRY TO BECOME A BIG GIRL VERY SOON. ONCE YOU ARE MATURE ENOUGH, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND MOST OF THESE DISCUSSIONS.
Love,
Muchalinda
PS: FYI, The age of retirement in most of the counries is 55 if not 60. If you know any country that allows workers to get retired before this age, can you please advice. It would be very helpful.
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Mucha-linda
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7 Sep 2005 06:04:47 GMT Report for Abuse
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SHAN:
I came back home after collecting my government pension, but would not be able to post a reply here today, because my UNCLE is away. My father is also not here to correct my English Grammer today. So I will be back as soon as I get their assistance.
-Muchalinda
PS: According to my aunt, more silence my uncle is more vigorous he is going to be. So be careful:-))
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7 Sep 2005 06:17:24 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mucha ,
buddy ...superb stuff..and nice piece of humor you got...all to gether nice combination...COMPREHENSIVE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE SUBJECT AND SOME HUMOR...
great...keep up the valued contribution...
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7 Sep 2005 09:51:07 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mucha
Take your time. I am busy as well. More the vigorous more I like. I have no problem with your English and you will score 100% when compared with mine. I don?t want your English to twist things here. Now for the time being I keep the records so if any problem I can clariyfy.
In your next reply I expect the following vigorously.
1. I have given the Koneshwaram and Kethesh waram temples (East and West) and their period dating back to 6/7 century AD. Now I want you to tell me from your archaeological inscriptions who was the Sinhala Saivite king build these temples for the Sinhala saivites there.
2. Who was the general Portuguese/ Dutch brought Tamils from South India?
And how many thousands? Definitely Europeans will have accounts.
3. What are your oldest temples in the N&E? and the inscriptions and the periods? You know when was Bhudism was introduced in SL. Does not matter even it is in Pali.
4. What is your answer to the following?
Two different nations, from a very ancient period, have divided between them the possession of the Island: the Sinhalese inhabiting the interior in its Southern and western parts from the river Wallouwe to Chilaw, and the Malabars (Tamils) who possess the Northern and Eastern Districts. These two nations differ entirely in their religion, language and manners.
- Sir Hugh Cleghorn, British Colonial Secretary, June 1879
'As to the qualification required in the knowledge of the native languages, the Portuguese and Sinhalese only being mentioned excludes one which is fully necessary in the Northern Districts as the Sinhalese in the South. I mean the Tamil language, commonly called the Malabar language, which with a mixture of Portuguese in use through all the provinces is the proper native tongue of the inhabitants from Puttalam to Batticaloa northward inclusive of both these districts.. Your Lordship will therefore, I hope have no objection to my putting Tamil on an equal footing of encouragement with the Sinhalese'
- Sir Robert Brownrigg, Governor of Ceylon, 1813 Dispatch to the British Colonial Secretary of State, Reported in the Tribune, 12 January 1956)
5. What was the Sinhala population in the east 1948 and now? Didn?t GOSL colonised and supported Sinhala criminals tosettle in the N&E?
6. Is there any rules in the UN one country should have one language and a religion to be given fore most places over another one?
I hope you will give me precise answers.
Meet again and fix things.
Bye
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Mucha-linda
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8 Sep 2005 02:13:25 GMT Report for Abuse
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SHAN:
I showed both of your postings to my UNCLE. He first got very angry, and then laughed. He told that you are some sort of a Head, which I cannot remember- But I think it is a NAUGHTY word. The following post is what he gave back to me to post here.
:-))))
-Muchalinda
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Mucha-linda
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8 Sep 2005 02:13:48 GMT Report for Abuse
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SHAN:
I am neither an English Teacher nor a Lawyer, and is not in a position to get any assistance from my father. I can perfectly understand most of your English and NOT ONLY THAT, I also can understand your true intentions behind mentioning those.
So, Please DO NOT try to twist the things, because you are NOT allowed to do that with someone who knows your true intentions.
The problem here is NOT understanding your English, but the way you respond to the points I raised. I cannot be any BOLDER than this.
Just look at what you wrote. This is from your last post:
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As you said, since 1739 to 1815 several Nayakkar Kings ruled the Sinhala Buddhist Kandyan Kingdom. In the same way Jewish Benjamin Disraeli became the Prime Minister of UK for several years, and UK was never considered as a Jewish State.
SQ
1.I have given the evidence of ethnicity of the SL from your source it self dates back in BC.
2.How it was at the time of we lost our independence to Portuguese.
3. British brought the administration together. You expert give me the date. OR I will.
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Does this make any sense to anyone. Not definitely to me. I can understand your English, but not what you are talking about. This is exactly the issue I raised. You just quote me and write something irrelevant and try to make others on your bandwagon happy by showing them you answered me very well.
I am ready to answer your questions. But I have to get certain other things fixed because I do not want you to run away from the issues I raised earlier.
1) You wrote: Kandy king is answerable to QUEEN OK. There was no such independent Kandy king after Rajasingan. Kangarathanam was WORKING FOR KANDY KING IN 1921. How frequent these Kandy kings did the so called census before? What was the Sinhala population in 1948 in the eastern province? What is now? (Emphasis, mine).
Do you still stand by this statement. If not, just say NO. Otherwise please give the name of the KANDY KING who answered to the Queen of UK. Also give the name of the Kandy King who ruled in 1921.
2) You raised certain issues about Veddas of Sri Lanka which has not been included in your questionnaire. Do you want me to comment on them.
3) You spoke about a certain inscription that is related to the Ishwaran Temples. I repeatedly ask yuou to give further information about the inscription. If you do have them, can you please pass those to me, because I am very keen to read them. If you do not have, just say NO without going around the Bush.
In the same time can you also give the names of any Sri Lankan Tamil kings who could possibly have built those Ishwaran Temples.
4) You said that Sinhalas did not fight with Portuguese or with Dutch. Do you still stand by this?
I have asked 1, 3 and 4 of the above on few occasions but have not a received a reasonable reply. So..once you answered these questions, I will respond to yours.
GOOD LUCK.
-Muchalinda
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Mucha-linda
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8 Sep 2005 02:23:36 GMT Report for Abuse
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SHAN:
Somehow my UNCLE has seen the post I published here in which I said to you that my UNCLE is assiting me. He again got very angry and called me the same Head.
I guess he is a bad man.
-Muchalinda
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8 Sep 2005 12:46:22 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mucha
You wrote
(SHAN:
I am neither an English Teacher nor a Lawyer, and is not in a position to get any assistance from my father. I can perfectly understand most of your English and NOT ONLY THAT, I also can understand your true intentions behind mentioning those.
So, Please DO NOT try to twist the things, because you are NOT allowed to do that with someone who knows your true intentions.
The problem here is NOT understanding your English, but the way you respond to the points I raised. I cannot be any BOLDER than this. )
My Answer
You were giving me some advice how to write things. I have no problem with that but I was responding to mostly every paragraph. I am planning to do the same in future so we don?t miss anything. No hidden agenda about this. You wanted me to get the advise from Fairplay about the proverbs. Didn?t you?
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(Just look at what you wrote. This is from your last post:
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MQ
As you said, since 1739 to 1815 several Nayakkar Kings ruled the Sinhala Buddhist Kandyan Kingdom. In the same way Jewish Benjamin Disraeli became the Prime Minister of UK for several years, and UK was never considered as a Jewish State.
SQ
1.I have given the evidence of ethnicity of the SL from your source it self dates back in BC.
2.How it was at the time of we lost our independence to Portuguese.
3. British brought the administration together. You expert give me the date. OR I will.
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Does this make any sense to anyone. Not definitely to me. I can understand your English, but not what you are talking about. This is exactly the issue I raised. You just quote me and write something irrelevant and try to make others on your bandwagon happy by showing them you answered me very well. )
My answer
There is some mix up I will clarify. Read your previous post started like
Read your Post in complete
((2) Quote: your appointed last king in Jaffna was not a Sinhala Buddist. Tamil and Hindu. System was violated from 1200 in Jaffna You could not do anything. Your last Kandy king was a Tamil. He didn?t fight to the throne. System selected him.
I have nothing seriously against about the above you mentioned, because it is not going to disprove anything I said. More precisely, Arya Chakrawarthis ruled Peninsular Jaffna (Remember: Not a single square inch in the East) roughly for a period of 350 years and Portuguese took over the area thereafter (we discussed this very well in our previous discussion and if you want we can repeat them here again).
Also note, Sinhala Kings never considered these Rulers as Independent Kings or as Parallel Kingdoms, but treated them as mere local rulers who, on certain occasions behaved rebelliously (Refer to the examples I gave in my previous post). In fact, there were even few Sinhala areas controlled by ceratin Sinhala Rebellious chieftains ignoring the orders of the King. If you want I can give more evidence. Also, these Sinhala Kings never attempted to re-establish their complete control in Jaffna due to many reasons, one being them having their own headaches to get resolved at their immediate back yards. You may see the differences in the ways Sinhala Kings reacted to Portuguese Invaders and to Arya Chakrawarthis in this regards.
As you said, since 1739 to 1815 several Nayakkar Kings ruled the Sinhala Buddhist Kandyan Kingdom. In the same way Jewish Benjamin Disraeli became the Prime Minister of UK for several years, and UK was never considered as a Jewish State.)
My answer
1.It is not your kings? consideration I need. As I told you before even if the local Tamil kings accept your rule as a second-class citizen centuries ago it will not stop me fighting for my independence. What I was telling is, there was a Tamil Kingdom and was independent till we loose it to Portuguese. It was not ruled with Sinhala Buddhist values. In fact you tried at times to take over but failed. Tamils don?t need anybodies consideration. I also can say Tamil kings didn?t consider your kings as independent kingdoms. They ruled it before time and time again history-starting from BC. You have no clue what was happening and assumed every thing is yours.
( Mannar is not within the Jaffna Peninsula. And Vanni is not withen the Jaffna Peninsula. We will talk about later what happened.)
2.About Nayakkar Kings I have no idea. Why do you higher people to rule you from abroad? Don?t you have any local people there? Anyhow that is / was your problem.
3.About the East it was not in the control of Tamil kings at the time of Portuguese arrived. I am interested in the population and the ethnicity. How it was changed?
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(I am ready to answer your questions. But I have to get certain other things fixed because I do not want you to run away from the issues I raised earlier.
1) You wrote: Kandy king is answerable to QUEEN OK. There was no such independent Kandy king after Rajasingan. Kangarathanam was WORKING FOR KANDY KING IN 1921. How frequent these Kandy kings did the so called census before? What was the Sinhala population in 1948 in the eastern province? What is now? (Emphasis, mine).
Do you still stand by this statement. If not, just say NO. Otherwise please give the name of the KANDY KING who answered to the Queen of UK. Also give the name of the Kandy King who ruled in 1921. )
My answer
Europeans never had a massive population to be present and rule the country. They forced deals with the local ruler to do their business. If they were not agreeing rulers are changed or challenged. This is what I meant. Do you think that is independent?
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(2) You raised certain issues about Veddas of Sri Lanka which has not been included in your questionnaire. Do you want me to comment on them.
My answer
You comment to Weerasekara. It was reflecting the ehenicity. Whose article in the roots web.
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You cont as
(3) You spoke about a certain inscription that is related to the Ishwaran Temples. I repeatedly ask yuou to give further information about the inscription. If you do have them, can you please pass those to me, because I am very keen to read them. If you do not have, just say NO without going around the Bush.
In the same time can you also give the names of any Sri Lankan Tamil kings who could possibly have built those Ishwaran Temples. )
My answer
These are Hindu temples dating back to 5/6 century AD. I gave you things about the Saiva saints. You give me your version about these temples and we will match it and see where it goes wrong. Who were the Shihala saivites there?
Like matching Mahavansa and Manimehali.
It was originally built by Indian Tamil king. They ruled SL Tamils and you. ( I think Buddha was borne in India)
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You cont as
4) You said that Sinhalas did not fight with Portuguese or with Dutch. Do you still stand by this?
My answer
Yes I do and I will clarify
I want you to tell me Sinhalease fighting in the North at the time of Portuguese arrival.
(It has not happen but that does not mean the population was Sinhalease)
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Compare your resistance to it with West and the East.
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You cont as
(SHAN:
Somehow my UNCLE has seen the post I published here in which I said to you that my UNCLE is assiting me. He again got very angry and called me the same Head.
I guess he is a bad man.)
My answer
Ask him to take a prescription from the doctor than writing INSCRIPTIONS.
BYE.
Edited By - shan - 8 Sep 2005 12:51:11 GMT |
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9 Sep 2005 03:53:18 GMT Report for Abuse
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SHAN:
Mister, Get this crystal clear. I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEMS ABOUT YOUR ENGLISH. Your English MAY not be very good, and mine is DEFINETELY not good. So I am not in a position to advise you how to write English.
The problem with your writing is you are not responding to what I ask. You just write something.
THIS IS EXTRACTED FROM YOUR LAST POST (modified).
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SHAN in a previous post wrote: Kandy king is answerable to QUEEN OK. There was no such independent Kandy king after Rajasingan. Kangarathanam was WORKING FOR KANDY KING IN 1921. How frequent these Kandy kings did the so called census before? What was the Sinhala population in 1948 in the eastern province? What is now? (Emphasis, mine).
In response to this I asked him: Do you still stand by this statement. If not, just say NO. Otherwise please give the name of the KANDY KING who answered to the Queen of UK. Also give the name of the Kandy King who ruled in 1921. )
This is how SHAN replied to the question I asked: Europeans never had a massive population to be present and rule the country. They forced deals with the local ruler to do their business. If they were not agreeing rulers are changed or challenged. This is what I meant. Do you think that is independent?
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My English may not be good enough to understand this. And there could be some others who can understand this since I have seen people admiring SHAN. So, I would like to invite any reader to explain this to me if it makes any sense to them.
About Ishwaran Temples:
Foget about this. You do not have any valuable information about the so called inscription you spoke about, but are trying to hide the very fact. There is no point of giving my explanation again here since I have given this on two different occasions.
In the 25th page of this discussion you wrote: I am confident to tell you that I have inscriptions in my pocket date back to 6th century AD about these temples .
What I am politely asking you is just to empty your pocket. That?s all.
About Battles between Sinhalas and Portuguese and Dutch:
You wrote: You (i.e. Sinhalas) didn?t put up resistance to Portuguese! Or Dutch! Well done.
After giving all the evidence about the Battles those took place at places like DANTHURE, RANDENIWALA, GANNORUWA, MULLERIYAWA, if you still say that you stood by your statement, may god bless you SHAN.
About my Uncle:
I told you. He is a sick person. Otherwise how on earth would he call the same name (that Head thing I told) to both of us. He in fact has visited a doctor to get some prescription medicine, but when trying to read Doctor?s handwriting, he realized it is easy to read centuries old inscriptions than the Doctor?s prescription. So he keeps reading those:-)))).
Have a Good Weekend.
-Muchalinda
PS: I will answer your Questionnaire on Monday, as time permits.
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