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Ariyalai_SB
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26 Aug 2005 17:48:53 GMT Report for Abuse
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Parakum,
I have read your last post again, and am utterly gob smacked that your are genuinely think that the Christian missionaries are converting the people to Christianity. I lived in Jaffna all my life until I had to leave, and I never came across any missionaries that were trying to convert people.
The Sinhalese attacked the Tamils in 1956, 1977 and 1983, so you claim that it was because of the Missionaries!
The Bindiluweva massacre, and the subsequent cover-up, is it because, the Sinhalese were worried about the Missionaries?
My friend, you don't know the meaning of the secularism, and let alone practicing; you claim that the Sinhalese are receptive to all the non Buddhists, and allow everyone preserve their identity and culture; so, how do you explain LTTE? How did the Tamils become radical?
In my view, neither LTTE nor the GOSL will win the war; only way forward is through a dialogue. You need to understand this reality. |
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26 Aug 2005 18:57:18 GMT Report for Abuse
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Hello Mucha
I did not intend to write to you but you are the one quoting my name when you write to others so ended up writing the last comment.
I don?t under estimate your knowledge in history. Do you thing your so-called truckload of evidence you gave to me reflects the ethnicity of the country?
You mentioned shipbuilding and one king giving order to a minister in Jaffna to carry out his functions. Did I deny that? No. History is history. Tamils would have been under your rule my dear. Didn?t sinhalease were ruled by Tamil kings ?
Your president is giving order to the jaffna commander now Does that mean the whole population in jaffna is sinhalease? If Jaffna is under SL control that does not mean the population should be Sinhalease. Your military is erecting Buddha statue in N&E does it mean now the population is Sinhala Buddhist?
How many of your temples have been destroyed in the N&E? How many of your Govt Representative have been killed or chased away by the invading Tamils? If we can able to talk about what happened in BC with absolute conviction, we should be able to talk about the recent one with absolute confidence and facts and figures and names. It is an on going trouble from the early date on wards. So we should be able to talk about very well the recent events.
Recorded Tamil Sinhala problems from B.C. onwards from your mahavansa. You say Tamils were invaders and been chased away. Again Tamils came again chased away. So who are I and other SL Tamils? Did we fell from sky suddenly and you all disappeared with your greatness leaving N&E for Tamils with out even simple trouble. You are a history expert you should be having the answer for this.
Does Malaysia or Indonesia have a history for Tamils from BC on wards? Those countries were also invaded by Chola empire. Do those countries have any place significantly populated with Tamils as majority? Was there any Tamil kings ruling parts of these countries for generation after generation?
Did you ever answer the question that SL Tamils came here as refuge form Tamil nadu or they have been kicked out of Tamil nadu or brought by Sinhalese work for them?
You can publish our discussion I had with you. I have bit of it only. |
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26 Aug 2005 19:51:21 GMT Report for Abuse
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Hi shan,
Well done brother .
Some of your questions are too much hard to be answered by an 'expert' like Muchalinda.
The irony of this ethnic conflict it's that the majority who is fighting against Tamils living in Srilanka do not know a thing about his ennemy's culture, or the link they have with them...
It's a buggous bloody war between brothers of same blood...
The reason, some people are underestiming the Right for the tamils in Sri lanka. |
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27 Aug 2005 04:36:16 GMT Report for Abuse
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Pakyasothi Swaranamuttu has taken a U turn?? He balmes LTTE for killing of Kadir??
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Dr Pakyasothi Sawaranamuttu has just 'earned' a position of Thaivar's Mosat favurite list!
CPA CONDEMNS KILLING OF LAKSHMAN KADIRGAMAR AND CALLS FOR A PRINCIPLED PEACE PROCESS
Dr.Paikiasothy Saravanamuttu
August 27
The brutal and cowardly assassination of Sri Lanka�s Foreign Minister Lakshman Kadirgamar is a grim reminder to all that the three years following the ceasefire agreement has not gone beyond the state of a 'negative peace� or what is called a 'No War No Peace� syndrome. CPA unequivocally condemns the assassination and extends our condolences to Mr Kadirgamar�s family. Mr Kadirgamar was a champion of the unity of Sri Lanka, a just, democratic and durable peace, and universally recognized as the best Foreign Minister this country has had. His brutal assassination tragically underscores the obstacles to making peace in Sri Lanka and the imperative of addressing them as a matter of the utmost priority.
While an all-out war was brought to a halt by the ceasefire agreement more than three years ago and six sessions of negotiations took place between the Government of Sri Lanka(GoSL) and the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam(LTTE) before they were suspended over two years ago, violations of the ceasefire agreement with a direct and adverse impact on the state of human rights and human security, continue unabated. Political killings and child conscription with impunity, in particular, despite condemnations from civil society and the international community, have weighed heavily on the peace process and eroded broad support for even �negative� peace.
In this, the LTTE has to shoulder the primary responsibility just as much as the assassination of Lakshman Kadirgamar has all the hallmarks of an LTTE act of terrorism, despite its arrogant denials. The burden now lies with the GoSL and the investigating authorities to come out with conclusive evidence that can stand the test of judicial proceedings and the due process of law. Furthermore, they must take all measures to apprehend, convict and punish the perpetrators of this dastardly crime, including the conspirators and, in particular, those who masterminded it. The fact that the LTTE is a party to the peace process should not in any way prevent or impede the investigative and judicial process. And, the LTTE, if as it claims was not responsible, must surely cooperate with the investigations rather than �challenge� the authorities to find the culprits.
In addition to the above, a primary responsibility lies with the GoSL and the LTTE to engage in principled negotiations and to conduct the peace process in a manner that is sustainable and open to scrutiny. The battle between State sovereignty and LTTE�s pursuit of legitimacy and a Tamil Statehood, has relegated to the background the critical task of finding a just and durable solution to the Ethnic Question that involves all legitimate stakeholders in the country and which is based on power-sharing, autonomy, democracy and human rights.
Unfortunately, the peace process has hardly moved beyond the stage of the big guns falling silent, while attacks on human rights and human security continue unabated and with impunity. The peace process has also not moved beyond the exploration of interim structures to deal with immediate humanitarian needs to addressing the root causes of the conflict and to redressing them. We consider the peace process to be flawed and call on Norway to consider redesigning it in consultation with the GoSL, LTTE and all legitimate stakeholders in this country. In this
context we welcome the possibility of the signatories of the Cease fire Agreement meeting to review it. However, we note that a fundamental review and redesign of the peace process is crucially necessary.
This should take into account the need for principled negotiations to advance the process to a conclusion, rather than rely on a series of interim and ad hoc measures. The ultimate responsibility lies not only with the parties to the conflict and negotiations (i.e. GoSL, LTTE and Norway) but with all sections of the Sri Lankan polity and civil society to ensure and guarantee the above. A heavy burden also lies with the international community, given that the peace process is heavily internationalized. The international community has to extend its fullest support to the above process, including, if need be, sanctions. The Oslo Communiqu� and the Tokyo Declaration we believe, continue to have relevance and should inform the peace process.
This is the least that we can do for all those who laid down their lives, like Lakshman Kadrigamar, for a peace that is based on democracy, human rights and justice for all.
Dr.Paikiasothy Saravanamuttu Executive Director (on behalf of the Board of Directors of the Centre for Policy Alternatives) |
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27 Aug 2005 08:53:59 GMT Report for Abuse
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Oh Pera, IT'S NOT LTTE WHO KILLED KADIR !
IT'S A SHAME FROM THE ENTIRE SINHALA COMMUNITY TO ACCUSE THEM WITHOUT PROOFS !!
IT'S WHY I TRUST THAT MANY ARE ONLY UNEDUCATED AND RACIST. |
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27 Aug 2005 08:55:53 GMT Report for Abuse
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Ariyalai,
It's waste your time to teach sri lankan history to this uneducated people.
Those guys know only one thing, it's overthinking about the greatness of the Sinhala ...
Edited By - KURAL - 27 Aug 2005 09:29:13 GMT |
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27 Aug 2005 09:13:03 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kural,
I am not sure that they are uneducated; I think that they are educated fools, and I find these people are far more dangerous than the uneducated, and confused people. They compare the Western constitutions with theirs regarding religion; these fools cannot see that in the west, the religions and politics do not mix. In my view, this politicised Buddhism is comparable to the Islamic states. LTTE is a big problem for these people, as it is a big obstacle that is preventing them from carrying out their agenda, that is to create Sri Lanka a Sinhala Buddhist state. |
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27 Aug 2005 09:26:42 GMT Report for Abuse
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Most of Tamils in this forum start as modarate Tamils or as ladies (like tigeress19) just to get some attention from sinhala people.
After couple of postings they show their real face as bunch of murderers.
Arialai_AB is a classic example. |
KURAL
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27 Aug 2005 09:28:22 GMT Report for Abuse
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Sir Ariyalai,
It's exactly what i think, for me educated fool means uneducated simply. :-)
When i said that they know nothing about their ennemy's culture, it does mean too that they are very confused about it.
It's sure they are planning the creation of a teocratic country favorising a JHU govt... |
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