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shan
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25 Aug 2005 14:48:55 GMT Report for Abuse
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Ariyalai
I found this forum is just waste of time. So don?t waste your time.
Our problem is between life and death. Every day one or two Tamils is killed. SL forces occupy schools. 65000 Tamils are already dead and quarter of a million displaced. Have you seen any change in their mentality? What they want is total elimination.
See how a reporter was arrested? How he was ill-treated?
The funny thing I cant understand is they won?t elect JVP rule the country. They all reflect their ideas, but for a march no one goes and only handful of few hundreds. I belief the reason is they knew even SLFP and UNP are the same as JVP but not openly. |
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25 Aug 2005 15:01:42 GMT Report for Abuse
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Muchalinda,
it's not history twisting... it's a real visual proof, so it can be used as archeologic proof of something...
Unfortunately most of guys want not see. It's not tamils fault...
We understand your frustration , but pls try to see the REALITY.
What do you need to proof our existence before 6.th century ? |
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25 Aug 2005 15:40:36 GMT Report for Abuse
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Hi shan,
i too think that we need to give more time for our family, it's wasting time coming always here.
Have you got still problems with your wife for the time you lost in this forum ?
and about jvp ruling the country, fortunately JVP is not a powerful party for peaceful guys. JVP is for me the worst sri lankan party. Why ? Because it's parties like JVP who still continue to promote the state corruption. Mi Marxist - Mi Rat Capitalist , the JVP is fully profiting of our national richness.
Through a bogus sri lankan economy system , our state leaders can live as god without been harassased by the question of how find the money man need to live ... (i think it's not the case for the majority of sri lankans, without distinction of ethnic division.)
Pls don't forgot such things. People are always the innocants, ... the govt. is always the robber.
I feel sincerely pity and sadness towards our labour class, who is stolen by the state govt. |
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25 Aug 2005 15:54:53 GMT Report for Abuse
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Ariyalai_SB
Dear Friend, I f you need to know whether my claim (eastern region of SL belonged to Kandian kingdom even in late 17th century), you can study the history of this particular period. You don?t have to be a historian to get some knowledge about our history and I?m not a historian either. Anyway, let me answer some of the facts you have brought forward.
Quote: I know for a fact that the last king of Kandy, Sri Wickrama Rajasinghe was a Tamil. The fact is that there are 4?000 Tamil words in Sinhala language; surely, you are not going to claim that Sinhala existed before Tamil!
Last Sinhala king Weera Parakrama Narendrasinghe ( 1707 -1739) got a bride from Madurai.When he died leaving no one ( he didn?t have children ) to succeed as the king, fair and non discriminatory ministers enthroned Mdurai queen?s younger brother as Sri Vijaya Rajasinghe. He didn?t speak Tamil, but another Dravidian language Teligu. Merely, the nationality of this dynasty was south Indian. They had totally accepted the existing Sinhalese Buddhist tradition and dedicated to protect the kingdom from invaders. Most of these kings resemble the behavior of late foreign minister Laxman Kadiragamar. One should understand that having a king of foreign origin does not mean that a particular country goes under that foreign rule. For example, current royal family of Great Briton is ethnically of German origin. First of this dynasty, king George 1 (1714-27 ) even didn?t speak English for his whole life and lived mostly in Hanover-Germany leaving his ministers to rule England. Does it mean that England was ruled by Germans just because the Royal family was German? According to your argument, India will also be ruled by Italians if Sonia Gandhi becomes the Prime Minister of India. In the same manner, Peru was ruled by Japanese when Fujimori was the president and Russia was ruled by Georgians because Joseph Stalin was a Georgian.
When it comes to the language, again I have to teach you about the dispersion of languages through out the Sub continent. Sinhalese and most of the North Indian languages belong to the Indo-European language family. Tamil,telegu,and Malayali belong to the Dravidian group of languages. Sanskrit was the source of North Indian and Sinhalese languages and it also has a great influence over Dravidian languages including Tamil. Most of the words shared by Sinhalese and Tamil languages are directly borrowed from Sanskrit. However I do agree with the fact that some Sinhalese words were borrowed from original Tamil and the number of borrowed words may be around 100, not as many as 4000 words. This situation is quite similar to french words in English despite the fact that English belonging to the Germanic group of languages. However, Tamil influence on Sinhalese language is much lesser than the French influence on English. Therefore I request you to understand the complexity of these issues before exaggerating the Tamil influence.
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25 Aug 2005 16:00:27 GMT Report for Abuse
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Quote: The issue is that you are facing LTTE; can you defeat them militarily?.........
We, patriotic people of our motherland do believe that LTTE can very easily be defeated militarily. But the SL army does not behave like the US and British armies which do not hesitate to destroy thousands of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan in order to eliminate threats to the US homeland 10,000 miles away. Surprisingly, whenever SL army starts an operation against terrorists with extremely minimum civilian causalities, the very same Britons and Americans are screaming about human right violations and urge us to hold peace talks with terrorists. Conversely, when LTTE terrorists kill hundreds of Sinhalese and Muslim villagers in north and east and blast bombs in Colombo killing hundreds of civilians, these humanitarian westerners (so called international community) remain silent. Since politicians in Sri Lanka have not yet realized this scenario, LTTE terrorists and their supporters like you can still hide behind the western curtain. However this pathetic situation will not continue for a long time. The day all the patriotic people in Sri Lanka get together and appoint a truly patriotic leader; LTTE will probably be defeated by our Army while preserving the rights of imprisoned Tamil community in North and East. The SL government does not need to negotiate with an already weakened terrorist organization. The strength of LTTE rests mostly on its western sympathizers and once this link is dismantled, military defeat of LTTE is inevitable. Therefore, don?t be disturbed much by our noises today because there are many more to lose for ealam lovers like you in the near future.
Parakum |
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25 Aug 2005 16:08:10 GMT Report for Abuse
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Parakum,
Keep your historical evidence to yourself; all I know that when Sri lanka gained independence, only 3% of the Sinhalese were living within the Eastern regions. I would advise you to teach your thoughts to your JVP followers, and ilk.
By the way, you need to deal with the reality of this small issue of LTTE; please answer me, how are you intend to deal with them? |
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25 Aug 2005 16:19:45 GMT Report for Abuse
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Parakum,
Now you are talking through your head; you need to face the fact that you cannot defeat LTTE; the last time when you were cornered, CBK ran to India for help; this is the reality.
The international community is only asking the GOSL to do what is correct in terms of internationally accepted norms. That is all. IC is entitled to say something because the GOSL keep begging for money and arms; Parakum, please face the reality, and accept the fact that there is only one solution that is to find a viable federal structure. Please keep your manufactured history to yourself. When the Portuguese arrived in 1505, there were three kingdoms: Kotte, Kandian, and Tamil (north & east) Please face the reality; you can bark all day, but nothing will happen, and at the end of the day you need to face the reality. |
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25 Aug 2005 16:32:52 GMT Report for Abuse
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Shan,
I know what you mean, and thanks for comments. |
shan
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25 Aug 2005 17:00:10 GMT Report for Abuse
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Hi Kural
Nice to hear from you. Tnx. I am not like you all and I spend very little time when compared with you all guys. But always appreciate your time and contribution along with others who are really spending the time to explain our situation. I am bit free at work so I don?t have to compromise my family commitments.
However, you can see, there is no point talking to them with out a middleman because there will be nothing at the end will be just a waste of time.
I cannot see any interest from GOSL re our Tamil issue and wait and see what Ltte is going to do.
Once again we are hooked up with Mucha. I learned lot about SL history recently and bit of Mahavansa.
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shan
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25 Aug 2005 17:10:36 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kural one more thing before I finish, Not that I like JVP I like it for two reasons
1. They will be in the same position as any Govt as UNP or SLFP
2. Tamils can sort themselves bit quickly. |
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