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Ariyalai_SB
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25 Aug 2005 10:52:31 GMT Report for Abuse
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Parakum & Muchalinda,
I am not a religious person at all, in fact I am an atheist; that said, I do not give monkeys about which religion has a foremost place in Sri Lanka; however, with this constitutional strength, some Sinhala fools erecting Buddha statues anywhere they want, and being protected by the Sinhala dominated armed forces. Doesn't this amount to blatant provocation? Is this how you want to manifest to the minority communities that they are safe in the country?
As it stands at the moment, you, as a Sinhala can kill a Tamil in broad day light, and in front of many witnesses, and still can escape with impunity; there is no question about that. Then, you wonder as to why the Tamils want their own administration! |
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25 Aug 2005 10:57:26 GMT Report for Abuse
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To whom may it concern
the stray dog might have to go to somewhere ,where there is no religion to follow,those who
exist in that part of the world.
i would like to suggest it to go to africa where there is many do not have a peace full religion.bhudda's teaching might help them.(hope it will teach them the way bhuda taught)or other wise it might get decapitated and cannibalized.
good luck and god bless the straydog |
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25 Aug 2005 11:23:30 GMT Report for Abuse
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Muchalinda,
In 1829, the Colebrooke and Cameron Commission was tasked to review the Island's administrative structure in order to eliminate any interferences to the economy.
The Commission worked to end the administrative divisions along the ethic and cultural lines into Low-country Sinhalese, Kandian Sinhalese, and Tamil areas. The commission proposed a uniform administrative structure, as Colebrooke believed that separate structures encouraged social and cultural divisions. So he tried to create a modern nation.
Cameron applied the same principle to the judiciary system that should be extended to all classes of people. This change was implemented in 1833.
So, Munchalinda, please refer the Colebrooke Commission report, and study the ethnic and social divisions that existed in Sri Lanka as a direct result of separate kingdoms. Please keep your archaeological evidence in your closet, and try and live in the real world.
As far as I can see that the Sinhala polity in terms of UNP and PA have consensus that a federal structure is the way forward, and it is a matter of time before it materialises. The LTTE need to be absolutely certain that any solution endeavored is for permanent; this should be underwritten by the international community. So, do you accept this scenario? If not, what are you going to? Well, you can join the SLA and fight; you may be able to hit several sixes by taking on the LTTE! |
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25 Aug 2005 11:35:38 GMT Report for Abuse
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I am amazed to see another round of history argument erupted because I believe I wrote a comment to a so-called Indian.
My self and Mucha had this one in a different forum and Kural was also in it little while ago.
At the end Mucha wrote to me saying that he was not willing to continue with and came to an end because what ever I am interested he has no or wage answer and what ever he was trying to say never satisfied me.
In that discussion I was trying to restrict the history to for 10 centuries for the reason, which may be more reasonably reliable, and nothing else. We also have a history in BC but he dismissed as epics but has no factual evidence.
Mucha has a habit of imaging a lot about their kings as (and compare to Napoleon or Alexander or Queen Victoria) they were ruling whole Sri Lanka (possibly whole Asia or entire region and defending the country with full force If any invasion take place North, south, West or East)
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25 Aug 2005 11:39:12 GMT Report for Abuse
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I asked him again and again If the sinhala kings were ruling the whole Island wasn?t their any Tamil people at all in this country? For that his answer was time and time again South Indian Tamils invaded this country and been chased away by their kings.
Up to where? Likely --Totally out of the Island?
Although he didn?t answered that question his other answers implied that.
If that was the case when with another invasion SL forces would have they engaged in thick battles in Jaffna and Mannar? Because there should have been big number of people and forces should have involved. He has not answered? And no evidence to that.
However, he was mentioning one thing that during the Chola empire, king Rajendra was was receiving information that one Sinhala king was building ships to invade India in mannar and Kytes to attack chola kingdom.
Cant there be Tamils building ships for Sinhala kings? Because Tamils were fighting among themselves (LIKE ltte fought against IPKF for SL)
So why were the so called battles took place in A?Pura. Not in Manar and Kytes. So forces retreat with the local people |
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25 Aug 2005 11:41:49 GMT Report for Abuse
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Ok, if Sri Lankan Tamil history is that short we should have a history of mass migration Definitely like what happened to the USA and Australia.
I asked him again why the hell Tamils in N&E decided to stay here? When there is an easy way back to India? His answer was Sinhala kings had their own headaches one after the other (migraine I suppose) and could not concentrate to chase them out.
Why did the Tamils stayed back? Was there any gold here and was a gold rush? Or a famine in Tamil nadu at that time?
Mucha has a funny fixed idea that when the rulers change entire population change immediately and forever and the next ruler to change everything. He knew about the kings? names and years when they ruled. How much they had under their control? He has no idea about it and presumes the whole island. And about the ethnicity of this country. How it could and would have been? No idea at all.
Like if CBK is the ruler he will assume entire population is Sinhala Buddist.
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This is what Tamils always ask and prefer for a middle man from civilised country to mediate. You cannot do anything with people with their fixed ideas.
Sinhalese happy to have direct talks --------- means mahavasa talk or
they love to have people from India (only now), Pakistan, Burma, China and some more crap countries. Sinhalese are lucky they had N&E as a present with their independence.
Ok History summary (not by me)
?There is some debate among historians as to whether settlement by Indo-Aryan speakers preceded settlement by Dravidian-speaking Tamils, but there is no dispute over the fact that Sri Lanka, from its earliest recorded history, was a multiethnic society. Evidence suggests that during the early centuries of Sri Lankan history there was considerable harmony between the Sinhalese and Tamils?.
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Informative general histories of Sri Lanka include K.M. de Silva's A History of Sri Lanka, E.F.C. Ludowyk's A Short History of Ceylon, Zeylanicus's Ceylon, S. Arasaratnam's Ceylon, and Chandra Richard de Silva's Sri Lanka: A History. Source books on medieval history are Wilhelm Geiger's translations of the Pali chronicles, the Mahavamsa and Culavamsa, and the comprehensive The Early History of Ceylon by G.C. Mendis. Highly informative for the study of modern political events and ethnic disturbances are S.J. Tambiah's Sri Lanka: Ethnic Fratricide, and the Dismantling of Democracy, A. Jeyaratnam Wilson's Politics in Sri Lanka, and Government and Politics in South Asia by Craig Baxter, Yogendra K. Malik, Charles H. Kennedy, and Robert C. Oberst
One question If SL is connected India by land Where would have been the demarcation of the sinhala kingdoms boundary? |
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25 Aug 2005 11:46:38 GMT Report for Abuse
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Shan
its all your fault then,some one in this forum continuously ask for archaeological evidence for Tamils present in lanka before 60000 thousand years ago.
but the funniest thing is ,it cannot prove those archaeological evidence are not belong to Tamils.instead it blast about the maharavase created about 500 years ago written by a monk. |
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25 Aug 2005 12:10:55 GMT Report for Abuse
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It is no point talking to them in direct. This what I can conclude.
See how they are jumping and hates about any mediation like Norway or any civilised world. They assume Norway has a hidden agenda behind this mediation. I cant understand what is problem having some one to facilitate to fighting parties to arrive at an amicable settlement. Ltte is already a proscribed organisation in several countries why Sinhalease have to worry the this world is to be biased towards Ltte/ Tamils.
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Tig 19
Duplicated the one above
Edited By - shan - 25 Aug 2005 12:12:31 GMT |
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25 Aug 2005 12:27:22 GMT Report for Abuse
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Shan & Tigeress19,
Muncha is part of a group of people who are well versed with their manufactured history with an agenda; the agenda is to make Sri Lanka a Sinhala Buddhist nation. They will do everything possible to justify this claim, come what may. It will fall in deaf ears, if we talk about individual rights and humanity. In my view, what Mucha needs to do to join the SLA to fight the Tigers; this is the reality.
It is completely laughable that these people claim that Sinhala existed before Tamil; when one can see that Sinhala evolved from Parli, Tamil and Thelungu; one needs to go to Karella to see where most of the Sinhala names come from. These people are like a curse that has been put on Sri Lanka, and they will not rest until they create a Sinhala Buddhist nation. |
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