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Yvonne killing: Strong case of homicide, says CID
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dumindak
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8 Jul 2005 12:08:10 GMT Report for Abuse
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This guy is an alchoholic, drug addict, expelled from school.
I dont know why this younger sister was dating him?
May be the life is so casual for her. When you have everything in the life you tend to do so many unwanted things. |
Factsright
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8 Jul 2005 13:20:14 GMT Report for Abuse
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Muniraj 16,
I guess you have the memory problem going too. I am talking about CIS in reply to specific comments made to the school?s students in Pera?s postings. Who are you trying to fool with the crap about parents sending their kids to international schools because they can?t get a proper private or government school. Have you seen the entrance exam to get into CIS (I say CIS as I don?t know the standard at other International schools regarding their entrance requirements)? It?s far tougher than writing ten lines about ?My friend? at the local ordinary level exam English paper. I have been to both types of schools so cut the crap.
CIS students are in top universities around the world and let me tell you that these universities are better able and qualified to asses the characteristics of their graduates than you can. Unfortunately your superiority complex has grown beyond your brain if you think you are the judge of character of anyone.
I know a lot about ragging in the university as two of my friends were affected (those that went to Colombo University from local schools). Any amount of ragging is not good. You seem to want to twist the facts to suit you. I was not talking about the Science faculty. Ragging is going on at Colombo University and it is people like you that keep such hatred fueled. My facts are perfectly accurate. There is ragging and if you wish to close your eyes to all the negatives of local universities and schools to feel superior inside your insecure self then that is your problem.
So, you like my Frogs in a well example. I am glad you are learning to use it although in the context you have used it I am sorry to say it makes no sense. As far as the airport bombing went, whatever news you got seems to be far from reliable which is not surprising given the misguided information you have constantly at hand. You seem to be under the notion that night clubs are only packed with international school students. You are strange!
As for your last comment, how can one get annoyed with an illiterate person, he does not know any better. The curse to Sri Lanka are people who can?t stand to see others doing well but still want to sit and hate them rather than do something themselves. The curse of Sri Lanka is their inability to understand English which leaves many unable to communicate properly with the outside world and therefore end up building so much of insecurity that they sit in their ignorant surroundings and boast about it. With people like you there is nothing left to hang on in our mother land, it is people like you that have built a dustbin out of this country. |
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9 Jul 2005 01:34:26 GMT Report for Abuse
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In Response to Attending International Schools (Pera):
I've attended both local (STC) and International (British) schools during my primary and secondary education. As far as I can say, its not the school you attend but your own self control which keeps you from losing it and going down the wrong paths. However, I was under more pressure at STC to try drugs and alcohol than I was at British. So what does that say about local schools vs international schools? I'll let the reader decide.
I believe that the environment at International schools or any co-ed institue teaches valuable social lessons to young boys and girls.Sad but true, even at a place like STC, the majority of the boys did not know how to behave next to the ladies (screaming and shouting and completely embarassing themselves).
If you want to see foryourself, Go to a place like Majestic City, look at the bloody idiots who harass young female shoppers, every one of them will be from a local school. Again what does this imply? I'll let the reader come up with their own conclusions.
We all hate what we cant have, when we dont have enough money to enjoy certain things in life we lash out at it.
The solution is not to have more and more so called international schools, but to try and bring up the standards of local schools and teach our kids moral,ethical and SOCIAL skills along with their standard education.
And on the note of clubbing - whats wrong with dancing and having a good time? And yeah we DO sometimes go to more than 3 clubs in a night, but that didnt make me wanna kill any1 :P (contrary to some comments i was reading on this forum LOL). |
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9 Jul 2005 01:54:46 GMT Report for Abuse
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All these problems actually rise because of the direction Sri Lankan society is heading in, not because of Western culture per se but because of Eastern culture too.
The prolonged heathenism of the Sinhalese, Tamil and especially the Muslim races is the root of this problem. When you believe in false Gods, false hopes, false prayers, your heart moves from the domain of the Almighty and Jesus, the True Lord, grows wary with these pitiful efforts.
I quote from Ezekiel 3:20 'And he who spurned the fruit of Providence, he who sought hedonism o'er piety, a life of penitence and misfortune awaits him...'
As the Prophets have made clear to us, it is you idolaters, polytheists and immoral heathens who have brought such harm to this society and only from your disbelief in God are such horrors possible.
When Jesus sits on the throne of this country, only then will we Sri Lankans find passage to the Kingdom of Heaven. Only then will Providence smile at our young and not frown as she does today.
God Bless and May you find true happiness with the Good Lord. |
muniraj16
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9 Jul 2005 07:08:13 GMT Report for Abuse
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Factsright,
It seems like my comments have hit you really hard. Sorry it was not my intention at all.
If I go back to your argument, a well educated person understands the standard of the local GCE A/Ls and UK GCE A/Ls. So I m not willing to elaborate on that matter any further. I accept that local O/Ls are not up to the standard. But still what you are referring to is English which is our secondary language, so its acceptable to be it so simple (though I personally think that it should have been at a much higher standard) & the fact is that 65-70% of the SL population are sitting for local O/Ls.
No one is interested at all about what university that any one goes to, only thing that they care is about the person coming out of it. Of course there is a huge influence from the particular uni but still there are people who deviate from it.
i my self also 100% against ragging...thats why when we were in the student union in we were able to keep a FULL STOP to it, though still there are advantages of ragging for the fresher s. Its the point that most of you guys didn't see. In local uni's fresher s are highly dependent on the seniors. So without ragging the interaction between the two parties will break to some extent. But still i m against ragging.
I accept that the SL night clubs are not filled with only Int'l college students. BUT, if you go there you ll see it for your self most of(I think more than 70%) them are between 15-20. I accept that all of them are not from only int'l colleges. But they have spread it to the society of the same class level. And most of the youth have embraced it with both hands.
My friend you are mistaken...why should any one hate int'l college students and other local college students...I really sympathize for them from the bottom of my heart. But i really hate the people who try to change the local decent culture (of course in an inappropriate manner) which was prevailed for thousands of years. Hope you are not one of them...
Though my English is not fluent...i have very well managed my self to be employed in an European country at a well recognise organisation holding a responsible position. And i m not ashamed of making a mistake in my English, as its not my mother tongue.
Lastly...sorry if you think that i copied your phrase 'frog in a well'...I thought it was a popular one...never thought that it was first revealed by you...sorry again..
chao... |
Kella
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9 Jul 2005 07:16:46 GMT Report for Abuse
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| I am an American woman, married to a Sri Lankan man. I am the Mother of two beautiful, bi-racial children. I am a Licensed Psychotherapist, who has spent time in Sri Lanka. And I am appalled at the ignorance of some of these posting. America did not teach this boy to kill. Yvonne's Mother did not allow her to become this boy's victim. False God's did not encourage this boy to vent his rage on another human. Even the 20 years of violence in Sri Lanka cannot be blamed. This boy comes from a wealthy but neglectful family, his rage and his out of control use of it, has a long history behind it. Yes, our parents are responsible for our upbringing, however, once we become adults, we have to take responsiblity for ourselves. If the lessons we learned growing up were not appropriate, we have to get whatever help necessary to relearn appropriate social and moral behaviors. We have to take responsiblity for our anger, our pain, our sadness, our happiness, and certainly, our behaviors. So who does that leave to blame for this boy's out of control behavior and subsequent efforts to hide his responsiblity? Take a closer look at his Mother and her efforts to hide the truth about her sons culpability. What do you think the messages are that this boy has grown up with? Neglect, deceit, irresponsiblity. Clearly all lessons he took to heart and and eventually exploded from. If he were a child, we could hold the parents responsible, but it is too late for that. He is an adult, and therefore, he alone must bear the responsiblity for his choices. |
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9 Jul 2005 07:52:54 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kella
I 100% agree with you and I also of the same view. parents also to a certain extent are responsible for this crime. But for some Sri lankans it is like Greek, and joke because they have no idea of what parenthood or parents responsibility is.
In Sri lanka people think parents responsibility is only to feed and grow up the children. children are their own way and parents are in a different path, which is totally wrong.
we cant blame the people because they are ignorant.
If you go to a bookshop in USA how many books you find on parenthood,motherhood,fatherhood etc. there are so many magazines totally for parenthood. These clearly show the responsibility of parents in raising children. But in Sri Lanka nothing is available and even educated people also dont raise the issue. |
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9 Jul 2005 08:12:59 GMT Report for Abuse
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| I don't know about all Sri Lankians, but I can say that what have seen among the privileged (including my husband and his family) is that child rearing is left mostly to the servants. I refused to have him bring a Sri Lankian nanny into our home, I am 95% responsible for my children's upbringing. It is an incredibily tough job and I honestly look forward to little time I spend working each week just to get a small break, but then, I rush home to be with them because nobody but me is going to teach them my morals, my beliefs, my values, except me. They are terrific kids, loved by lots of people, but nobody is going to love them the way I do. That loving includes discipline as well as getting the goodies parents provide. It's a job I am very proud of, and my children know it. The wealthy Sri Lankians I know, love thier children, but unfortunately, cannot be bothered to raise them. This murder is an extreme example of what happens when children are handed off to others to be cared for, hopefully we all, Sri Lankians and Americans alike (as well as the rest of the world) will take notice, and take responsibilty for our children. They are indeed the most abused minority in the world. God Bless and help us all. |
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10 Jul 2005 01:56:35 GMT Report for Abuse
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| That last post was mine btw, 'bluefear88', if ya awant to post any replies, adress them to me.later. |
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10 Jul 2005 01:59:04 GMT Report for Abuse
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By the last post, i meant -
well, i've been reading these posts over the last few days, all the way from 'American way of living and American way of getting killed' to 'god bless and help us all' and i've gotta say something. i *cannot* believe how much cr*p sum ppl r posting on this site. it is unequivocal that 90% of you have no idea what you are talking abt, and have digressed so far off the topic and rambled on, it isn't even funny, so i'm going to do a little rambling of my own. posts from anonymous, anon007 and factsright among others are the only rational minority here. i'm a sri lankan teenager,living abroad but when i was in sl, i attended a local gov't school and then CIS, among amongst others i've been in, and i still keep in touch with ppl from both both of em, and i know ppl from other schools as well. and let me tell ya, there isn't much difference in what they do on weekends. ppl from local schools 'go out' just as much as ppl in int'l schools, if not more, the only difference being that they might do it in different places.
and yeah, sri lankan culture is changing, but can't you ppl just try and find a smidgen of open-mindedness somewhere inside, and get the chips off your shoulders? man it gets me so riled up, how anally retentive some of you are..where do you get off blaming evrything on western influences and culture? time changes everything, so just deal with it. cultures blend and meld to form new, stronger more diverse ones. If some of ya want to keep living in the past, fine by me, but its only gonna make things harder for ya when reality comes a knockin' on your door.and blaming evrything on int'l schools?argh!! -_/ !! ppl i know in local school's started 'going out' and drinking among other things just around the same time as the rest of em.i live abroad and i'm pretty familiar with 'western culture' as you eloquently put it, and going to 3 clubs in one night isn't a big deal, it happens pretty often, been there, done that. and i'm not even gonna get started on 'American way of living and American way of getting killed'..and how on earth can the blame & responsibility for yvonnes death lie in her parent's hands? its ridiculous.. you think she's gotten out of hand? nope, wrong answer. its what some of you are saying thats 'out hand'.the only person to blame for this is the guy that killed her, shramantha, if he decided to get drunk and commit homicide, that ain't anybody's fault but his own. he made the decision to get drunk, to wait at the apartment for her, and kill her. noone else is 'directly' to blame. not western culture, not international schools, and definitely not her parents.i wasn't frineds with yvonne and didnt know her personally, but i was a grade below and knew her sister. it amazes me that while their family is grieving for their loss, some of you make a mockery of her death, right here in this forum. i know that i'm still barely an adult and have alot of growing up to do, but then i look at some of you adults, and it scares me, but in some strange way, it also strengthens me, cause now, i know what i DON'T want to become in the next few years. stop living in the past and take a look around. time changes everything, deal with it. |
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