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pissedoff
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8 Jul 2005 00:57:02 GMT Report for Abuse
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About 80% of the cr*p that has been posted on this site has annoyed, disgusted and angered me immensly. some ppl (kadiya, muniraj and the rest) on this site are so judgemental and jelous.
first of all, to those who consider goin to 3 night clubs in one night is unheard of even in Europe; you idi*ts! you obviously haven't heard of pub crawls or club crawls!
i was a past student of CIS as well as a Public School and those who are naive enough to claim that it is ppl from international schools that have become westernised and the public school students have not or atleast not as much, need to take a closer look at the world you live in.
i knew yvonne and theres no way she should'v deserved this, doesn't matter if she was some out of control child (SHE WASN'T!) as some have portrayed her!
i think the mojority of ppl who have posted the most unthoughful, insensitive and certainly uneducated opinions are simply jelous of the opportunities that an international school provides; ones that they prob could not afford. and this sad incident has become the ideal pin up for you small minded ppl, to have a go at these schools.
btw, no one is tellin anyone to lose their srilankan values, traditions, morals etc. i'm no longer in sri lanka but i hold on to my roots... and if not for my time at CIS, there is no way i would'v been prepared for living in a western country. but if you ppl claim that we should all turn our backs on the western culture and education, then we will be stuck in the rut that is the current sri lanka. if you idi*ts had educated opinions, you would understand that an open economy is the only way that the country has devloped to what it is today. if we had a closed economy and the current govt, we would be living on the streets. |
Mucha-linda
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8 Jul 2005 02:11:16 GMT Report for Abuse
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FACTS RIGHT,
Thanks for drawing the incident involved with two UK girls into this discussion. This, in a way, explains what I said in my previous posting (if you have read it).
The way the Brits saw this in those discussion forums (you mentioned) clearly shows their way of thinking. They took this whole issue as an incident that occurred among 4 individuals, not as a societal thing. They never worried about the family background of the killers (the teacher and her husband, if I can recollect correctly). As long as it is proved that two adults violated the HUMAN RIGHTS of the two small kids, it is more than enough for the Brits. But the very fact most of the British Tabloids hardly discussed is the background of that woman (Ms. Carr). She had an absolutely terrible childhood. Her parents got divorced when she was 13 and her Mum (with whom she stayed) started a LESBIAN affair with another woman right in the very house where she lived. I am no way trying to JUSTIFY what Ms. Carr did. But, would you behave (very) differently if she was you.
British news papers and the general public hardly recognized her past in regards of this incident, instead willingly portrayed her The Most Hatred Woman in UK.
In the Eastern way thinking, this was not the case. People hardly consider incidents of this nature as an accident happened among individuals, but as a social issue. That is why we can still see people like MUNIRAJ16 and KADIYA (and myself, if you want) tend to draw their families to analyze these incidents. I believe, the EASTERN way of thinking (i.e. The Social Rights Model) works well in understanding issues of this nature, though it has many other draw-backs (ex: cast mentality, an extended version of judging someone from their parental lineage).
-Muchalinda
PS: I am living outside of UK and therefore correct me if I am wrong in any of the above observations. Please analyze what I said in a generalized sense rather than in a definitive manner. |
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8 Jul 2005 03:05:18 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mucha-linda,
You asked if I would act differently if I faced a similar situation to Ms Carr...YES. Firstly, there are many people I know who have divorced parents and have put up with much more and they are NOT murderers. You seem to be having a policy towards victimizing the victim and defending the rights of a brutal killer. The only issue in the killing of the two ten year old girls is the punishment of a crazy woman that killed two innocent girls for no reason at all. She should be hated...there is no excuse for taking an innocent life. Secondly, you cannot analyse a family if you do not personally know them. You are analyzing judgements you have made regarding the victim and her family. This is wrong. You are talking badly about an innocent person that you never knew. The foundation of Sri Lankan society as you know it seems to be based on twisted untrue gossip. |
Mucha-linda
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8 Jul 2005 04:16:35 GMT Report for Abuse
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FACTS RIGHT,
1) Thanks for the reply.
2) Sociology, Psychology and Criminology are not pure Sciences (like Physics, Pure Maths etc). Therefore, 'Having Proved Once' does not necessarily guarantee similar results if repeated. Therefore, knowing numerous decent people who had divorced parents, would not disqualify what i said.
3) I did not ask you a question (as such), but tried to shed some light to an area no one discussed. And you answered my Question!!. (I pointed you the Moon. And you are criticizing me for biting nails). Think, why on earth should I worry what you would do if she was you.
4) Quote: You seem to be having a policy towards victimizing the victim and defending the rights of a brutal killer.
I do not want to put you in trouble by asking you to prove this. What I just suggested is that these type of incidents cannot be understood merely analyzing the individuals.
5) I repeat What I said: Quote: Please analyze what I said in a generalized sense rather than in a definitive manner.
6) Quote: The foundation of Sri Lankan society as you know it seems to be based on twisted untrue gossip.
This is interesting. You may be having few other INTENTIONS as well.
-Muchalinda.
MUNIRAJ16, KADUYA:
Apparently, I too have gone to the same DEVALA you went to worship. We are not far away from being labeled MURDERERS. |
Pera
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8 Jul 2005 04:54:07 GMT Report for Abuse
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Take it easy Mr Muchalinda,
These CIS guys are just ' getting ready to go out' and see the world. Then end up doing odd jobs abroad. Wonder why their parents raise them up in SL at first place. Some are even thinking of bleaching their skins...juts to look simmilar to their white masters..thats why so many Fair and Lovely types are selling in SL market!! |
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8 Jul 2005 05:24:38 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mucha-linda,
1)Your welcome
2)?Having proved once? does not necessarily NOT guarantee similar results if in a similar situation
3)Unless you do not know English the statement you made ?But would you behave (very) differently if she was you? is a question as far as English language structuring of sentences go! I provided the answer?NO.
4)If these types of incidents cannot be understood by merely analyzing the individuals why are you analyzing the background of Ms Carr and the victim?
5)Generalized or definitive you keep contradicting your self
6)Since you are the judgmental gossip master only you know your intentions for uttering such crap
You can argue with a thousand scholars but you cannot argue with one fool.
Pera,
You seem to be getting a thrill bashing CIS students but maybe you are taking your own insecurities out on others. You see CIS students as clubbing, misbehaving types but the cheap umbrella couples in Victoria park and Galle face (Your substitute for western culture) from other schools are ok? What is fair and lovely? Only you seem to know. What is wrong in doing odd jobs? It builds your character. What do you do?hang out at Victoria park? Slander students that actually want to study and get somewhere? Get a life. You are like a frog in a well croaking about your well because you can?t jump out of it to go see the world. If you did your ignorance would not be exposed. |
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8 Jul 2005 05:31:07 GMT Report for Abuse
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FACTS RIGHT,
Quote: You can argue with a thousand scholars but you cannot argue with one fool.
Thanks mate, I agree with you. This is the very advise I was missing.
-Muchalinda |
tanaumaga
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8 Jul 2005 05:46:13 GMT Report for Abuse
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| Admittedly my knowledge of CIS isn't great, I personally didnt attend that school, but Iam aware that it has existed for at least 15 years. In that time there is one alum that has been ACCUSED of a crime in the highest degree, namely the murder of Miss Jonsson. Moreover, the school to my knowledge has produced thousands of graduates some going on to reputed universities such as Cambridge, Oxford and MIT. I have had friends from that school, and they have been some of the most nicest,humblest people I know. If one former student out of thousands stands accused of murder must we assume that the schooling system of CIS is to blame. Isn't that akin to saying that all muslims are terrorists due to the actions of a few? |
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8 Jul 2005 06:06:59 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mr Facts right,
Get your facts right man (or woman or bi..as U come). I never said anything agaisnt going to clubs or enjoying. The clubs were born long before CIS was created. People used to enjoy long before clubs originated. Doing things under the umbrella in Victoria park is alright. Same applies to students of the CIS, Overseas college etc etc...That is becasue we all are animals and everyone comes with factory fitted sexual organs and desires. What I highlighted was the fact that you guys trying to 'get prepared' for you future abroad. Only that. Yes..now I have to admit doing odd jobs is also good for CIS students. Go on and do your odd job. |
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8 Jul 2005 06:50:48 GMT Report for Abuse
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| What is wrong in getting prepared for a future abroad? Why shouldn't CIS students make use of good universities abroad that actually teach something and help them get somewhere in life. Should everyone be subjected to ragging like in Colombo University and stay in Sri Lanka where the higher education is so bad that people cant understand half the things that are said to them and they have a chip on their shoulder when someone actually studies hard at a good university abroad. There are students of other countries that study at CIS because it's a good school so why can't CIS students select schools or universities abroad? Do you want Srilankans to becaome more and more iliterate staying in Sri Lanka where teachers in local schools teach half the things wrong? Do you want sri lankan children to be like frogs in a well cut out from the rest of the world and stay croaking in their little frog pond without knowing anything about the rest of the world? |
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