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Yvonne killing: Strong case of homicide, says CID
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anon007
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7 Jul 2005 12:05:21 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Muniraj16, i think you should speak for yourself when you say your not talking about/condemming Sri lankans embracing western culture because many of the earlier posts by other members certainly seem to suggest otherwise...and why on earth must the culture of International schools be changed? Incase you are unaware, most students from International schools go overseas for university education and some even end up living or working overseas and I personally feel (having experienced it myself) that this 'international school culture' is good preparation for overseas education and probably prevents what is referred to as 'culture shock'...and contray to what you may believe not all students from private/public schools are so 'innocent'. In colombo, I see very little difference in culture between these schools and international schools.Their is probably a greater level of discipline within the schools but as for things like going to clubs (and going to 3 clubs on the same night)..i hate to break it to you...but these kids are doing it too..its not just an 'ínternational school' thing.
So dont try and change the international school culture beacause thats not the problem. People just cant seem to accept that Sri Lanka is changing with the times and the kids of today are just trying to keep up with the times. Get over it. Im not saying we should throw away all our Sri Lankan values and traditions but we really need to be more open minded and accepting of change because it is inevitable.
pushpadesilva
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7 Jul 2005 12:14:44 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Very Sad story to hear..

As a parent, I think these teenagers have misused funds taken from their parents or the money they have earned were misused...Going to 2 to 3 clubs in a night were not acceptable..May be it may not be unusual in Sri Lanka now..I have left Sri Lanka in 1979..seems our culture has changed a lot compared to the years we were at school....They did not know their limits or there were no one to explain the situation where they were behaving..Or they have not listened to their parent's advice.

there is no point in blaming the parents...if they cannot control...Our culture is too much corrupted..The people who got money, they think that they can do anything even contract murders like our past PM (Mal Kumaraya)!!

My deepest sympathy to the rest of the family

God bless Sri Lanka and it's people !!
anon007
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7 Jul 2005 12:21:47 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Geeez this is so frustrating...i guess this is the way discussion forums are..i havnt really had much experience...oh well everyone is entitled to their own opinion!
rayray
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7 Jul 2005 12:44:16 GMT  Report for Abuse   
People who have left sri lanka in 1979 think that the country will stay in the same state as it was when they left? get over yourself.

times change - people evolve - sh*t happens. As anon007 states, we shouldnt give up all our 'sri lankan' values but we have to change with the times. Going out clubbing is not unacceptable.

May be we should change some of our local school values to fit in with international school values? what say you muniraj?
Anonymous
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7 Jul 2005 12:46:38 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Anon007 et al
It is not worth the effort. Just let them say what they want, as intelligent people will decide for themselves rather than accept the narrow-minded opinions expressed here. It is just human nature for them to be opposed to change that is not familiar to them or not within their zone of comfort. I personally refrain myself from posting or replying on these forums (as anyone can post any opinion here) unless there is something that NEEDS to be said rather than for a sake of commenting without thinking (which many do).
muniraj16
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7 Jul 2005 12:50:15 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Anon ,

as i was reading your post i think i got your back ground in my mind frame...you may have been to a Int'l college...there is no problem in that but buddy...please don't try to tell me about the SL an clubbing culture...even in european culture night clubs are very much decent in compared to SL...

I may have not studied in a humble govt school...but we managed to end up in europe with out going through any sort of a cultural barriers...its not only my expeirience...there are many sri lankans who are here even from exceptionally rural parts of the island...by the way ...that your cultural shock is a nice excuse for duplicate westerners to spread unsuited culture in their society...by no way that i can agree with you on that buddy...

chao...
muniraj16
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7 Jul 2005 13:05:22 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Rayray...

you have a point there buddy...just think for your self for a moment...for a person from an extremely closed culture(such as in sri lankan private and govt schools)straight away moving around with the same age students from an int'l school...can you just imagine the cultural difference between those two...

so as you say...definitely our local system needs to be changed ...there is no argue on that...but at the same time int'l schools also have to adjust to the local society rather than trying to adopt there inappropriate extreme values to the local culture...at the moment both the cultures are at two extremes...then hopefully we might be able to see some change...

chao...
dumindak
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7 Jul 2005 13:59:24 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Anonymous
you may have gone to he same school and have the same mindset of the killer boy.
At the same time I understand your position as a friend (your one friend was killed brutaly and other friend is in the jail now).You are trying to protect both of them and put the blame on circumstances.

I see the failur of both sides parents to protect their children.

First thing is this boy is a violent guy and used to beat the younger sister very often and 17 years old could not do anything but accept his domination. A girls mother can advise a daughter what kind of guy she should select as a boy friend. This is a very simple advise and violent guy is never suitable as a boy friend.Unfortunatly our mothers dont advise against violent guys and rather they go for the social status.If younger sister had dropped him because his violence this life could have been saved.

some men think that being violent is a part of the manhood, they beat sisters,girlfriends and wives and feel they are better men than others. mothers have to understand this and advise their daughters

Boys mother has spoiled him by giving him everything and making him feel very powerful, because of his high mentality only he killed the girl, He felt he is very powerful and this girl is like a penny and he wanted to punish her.After the incident he immediatly called his mother, because he knows mother will come and help him. In USA if a son has killed somebody and tell the mother, she will immidiatly call the police and hand him over.but Unfortunatly our mothers are opposite of that because they have not understood the motherhood from the begining and selfish
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7 Jul 2005 15:09:42 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Dumindak
There is an old saying, 'To assume makes an ASS of U and ME' but in this instance definitely YOU than me! You have simply concluded since I went to the same school the suspect went to (for your information he was expelled from CIS and accepted at Moir), that I have the same mindset. If you use the same logic, then everyone leaving CIS must be potential murderers. Words simply cannot describe your lack of brain cells.

Also you have assumed I am friends with the victim and suspect. I am as a matter of fact NOT friends with either and I have never met them. My attention was simply drawn to this news report purely because I was a former student of this school whilst in Sri Lanka and was drawn originally to comment out of a sense of morality. I am not trying to 'protect both of them' either. I simply stated the suspect/murderer should be trialled and have justice served for his actions uninhibited by external influences (corruption/influences which is so widely known in Sri Lanka). In no way did I state 'circumstances' as the reason for blame. I stated it was the suspect's mentality that drove him to commit the murder as the cause. I only chose to reply with the above simply to set the record straight since you based your opinion (the first paragraph) on assumptions about me. I choose not to comment on the rest of it for obvious reasons.
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7 Jul 2005 19:56:03 GMT  Report for Abuse   
It makes me sad to see some of the postings on this site. A couple of years ago when two 10 year old British girls were killed, the postings on many of the UK sites expressed sadness towards their death and sent messages to comfort their famalies. They did not judge the girls or their parents for letting two young girls walk a lone in the night on the streets of England. Many of the postings here judge the victim and her family. I have been to both non-international and international schools and let me say that LC girls and Bishop's girls and St Thomas/Royal boys are no saints. They party, go clubbing and get into worse things than many international school students. In most cases international school students are brought up in a mixed environment and can better control themselves unlike some of the local school students that go crazy at the mere sight of a girl or boy and get up to very bad things. Just because you go to the Blue elephant and listen to some music and meet some friends at the Taj and check out Glow doesn't mean you are a bad girl. Some people go to the church/temple but they are worse than those who dont. This girl should not be judged. You have no right to. She was a nice girl who had a bright future ahead of her and who tried to protect her sister. As for the suspect who had the wickedness to do such an act...may justice judge him. The suspect was expelled from CIS due to violent behaviour, bringing bottles and bottles of alcohol, getting involved in drugs, threatening students. His parents threatened the school to take legal action but the school stood strong and expelled him. He then went to Moir International school. Don't judge schools or its students without knowing the facts. As for those who connect International schools with western culture and see western culture as bad and Sri Lankan culture good...('American way of living and American way of getting killed' this posting disgusts me) please get to know the world around you before you talk exposing your ignorance. Do you approve of ragging in the Colombo University? Is that the culture you want Srilankan children to follow? Have you ever been to America or studied there to make such foolish judgements about countries? Just shutup trying to judge others, other schools and other students. Just say a prayer for an innocent girl whos life was cut short by a mad man.
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