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Yvonne killing: Strong case of homicide, says CID
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Factsright
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6 Jul 2005 21:55:57 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Just to put the facts right. The suspect was expelled from the Colombo International School and continued his studies at Moir International School after that. Neither the media nor any other party seems to be aware of this fact. When a student is expelled that means he is not considered suitable to attend that school.
vinod
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6 Jul 2005 22:51:38 GMT  Report for Abuse   
It is true that a de-racinated, culturally barren money elite has been spawned by the open economy and kept fertile by the 'international schools'. It is significant that this homicide has taken place within the protected portals of a segregated habitat of this very elite, far from the harsh reality of the true Sri Lanka. However, this does not mean that a young woman of this elite should be blamed for her own death.

It should be pointed out that it used to be quite safe in the '60s and '70s for young women, of whatever class, to be out quite late. Nowadays even the poor woman factory worker has difficulty going home from work in broad daylight.

It is strange that the rule 'innocent until proven guilty' does not seem to apply to the suspect in this homicide. Let any condemnation wait until the case has gone through the due process of the law.
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6 Jul 2005 23:20:36 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Our hearts, thoughts and prayers go out to the victim's family. May the Lord give them strength during this difficult time and in the future. VILA I FRID YVONNE!
Rev. Dr. Christopher Gammeddehewa and Family
Prison Chaplain in Härnösand, Sweden.
anon007
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7 Jul 2005 01:28:26 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Yes, like Factsright said, the suspect was expelled from CIS a few years ago but its never been mentioned by the media. It seems to me like they are choosing to ignore that 'minor' detail for a while.It may be part of their ongoing love-hate relationship with the school.
Mucha-linda
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7 Jul 2005 02:37:07 GMT  Report for Abuse   
I am not a philosopher or a sociologist. But what my understanding in this regards is that this is one of the end-results of Western Human Rights model.

What the societies in the east practiced before the European invasions is a Social Rights model, in which the SOCIETY was concerned the most important out of all, not the individuals. In this model, people were punished if their acts contradicted with the interests of the society. That is how abortions, extra-marital sexual relationships (?), divorce became a taboo in those societies. Thieves were punished not because they stole other people?s wealth, but because they do harm to betterment of the society.

In contrast to this, what the western societies practiced is a model where the individuals are given the prominence. Though the European Societies before the industrial revolution did not practice this in the same degree, with the wide spread of Anglo-Juwish hegemony, this trend became eminent. As a result, divorce was considered harmless as long as both the parties agree, and thieves are getting punished since they stole other individuals? wealth. A parent or a teacher cannot punish their children/ students as the youngsters are considered individuals. What we are seeing today are by-products of this trend.

I do not surprise if drug use became legalized in western countries along with one?s right to commit suicide, as long as these acts do not harm others. The campaign by Amnesty International to abolish capital punishment has to be understood in this context. Seeing failed democracies in the east is not a mere coincidence and may also have roots in this.

In simple terms, in the EAST, a society was not considered as a mere collection of individuals, whereas in the WEST, it indeed is.

I am not saying what we had previously is better than the current western model we practice (or forced on us). Both the models have their own strengths and their own drawbacks.

-Muchalinda
ruvi03
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7 Jul 2005 05:01:14 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Right on! anonymous,anon etc..
this forum DOES seriously need a moderator to control the unhindered venting of frustrations of many ppl who obviously love to spread their hatred to as many ppl as possible..(Sinhalese and tamils alike.....) ( and I'm not a muslim btw!)

To others who were quick to criticize the mother...

Who ever is to blame for this unfortunate incident ...cant you imagine the pain this lady must be going thru?..obviously not!!To have raised a daughter for nineteen years and lose her in a day is something that no mother should go thru ever in their lives..
Every mother in this world tries her best because thats all she can do at her job.....try her best.
And are any of you a mother who have raised a 'perfect' child ?

kadiya and the gang....

please try to understand what your parents would feel if the same would happen to them ...
Irrespective of whatever this girl did during this night
it would certainly not have qualified getting killed...cause no one in this world deserves to be murdered by anyone in this world....
I cannot imagine the sadistic pleasure you guys seem to emanate from your comments regarding this unfortunate incident.

ruvi
muniraj16
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7 Jul 2005 08:03:01 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Anon,rayray and ruvi,

We are not refering to the Sri Lankans embracing the western culture. We have to accept the fact that in the open economy its no way that we can control this happening.

What we are refering to is the new culture that has been created with in the international schools which of course has being spred in to other sub societies with in this group around Colombo.By any chance do you pandits have any idea about to what extent that the culture within a cirtain society influences the individual behavior or the attitude of an individual(specialy on students). If not do some readings about the individual behavior and the attitude...then you ll understand.

chao...
rayray
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7 Jul 2005 08:24:04 GMT  Report for Abuse   
No one is denying that there is a difference in culture among certain elements of society. This is not so much because of any western influence but as a result of our own feudalistic society.

People who have access to a different lifestyle are sometimes resented by people who have do NOT have access to it. Perhaps that is another subject for debate altogether.

Parents DO have a responsibility and there are many responsible parents in all cultures and societies.

Having attended both a local school and an international school i can say that in my experience there are differences and certainly advantages and disadvantages in both.

What i am disputing if your inference that somehow this poor girl brought it on herself. Under age girls get raped by Buddhist monks. No one is suggesting that Sunday school should be banned because of this and all monks regarded as sexual predators.
muniraj16
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7 Jul 2005 10:15:34 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Rayray...you have misunderstood my dear...by no means that i m saying that we should stop international schools...i m saying that we should gradually try to change the culture of these schools...thats all..

chao...
tanaumaga
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7 Jul 2005 11:50:21 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Excuse me, but what century are we living in? Some of the posts on this site represent viewpoints, which at best, are archaic. Since when has a night of clubbing warranted a brutal murder, or going to an international school make you liable to crime? Murder in Sri Lanka, is not exclusive to the timeframe of the open economy or the advent of international schools, Iam sure it has existed since the birth of our island nation. People are quick to blame the girl or her mother Mrs Jonssen, with the attitude that 'she was asking for it'. Indeed, Muniraj must have sprained an ankle jumping on that bandwagon. To reiterate, these crimes are not caused by international schools, excess wealth etc but are symptomatic of a culture which advocates suppression of feelings, desires and wants leading to events such as these.

Tana
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