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Yvonne killing: Strong case of homicide, says CID
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Courtjester
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25 Jul 2005 09:27:59 GMT Report for Abuse
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| All you people, you cannon blame these peoples' 'western way of living' as you call it. Our own people who have never left the country also go to the same places, act the same way (sometimes worse). It is very shortsighted and ignorant of you to blame their lifestyle. However, blaming the younger generation of using narcotics or being associated with youth who uses narcotics is justifiable. That is the mistake the vicim made. Just becuase people go to nightclubs does not make them bad people or earn them the right to be subjected to this kind of brutalness. So before you start blaming the western lifestyle for this kind of behavour, pls look around even at the Sri Lankan village lifestyle, where brutal murders of various aspects take place. But we speak very little of it, as it happens so often. However, when someone from a rich wealthy family from Colombo gets murdered all you people start blaming the western way of living! That is a very shortsighted view to take. |
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25 Jul 2005 09:46:30 GMT Report for Abuse
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Rayray, well said. At last, someone who has a broad 'big picture' view.
And who is this person Kadhiya? Keshi, I applaud you for standing up to this guy. I'm a guy myself, but this Kadhiya seems to be someone who hasn't seen the outside the four walls of his room since reaching puberty (that is even if he has).
Living a certain lifestyle such as going to night clubs does not make anyone an imoral, unethical or 'low class' person. It merely means that it is a form of entertainment that person may enjoy. For some it may be purely going to watch a movie. Just becuase you go to a night club it does not make you a hooker or a tart. But thinking it does is a clear demontration that, that person is duely uneducated, narrowminded and foolish. And I personally don't think this 'Kadhiya' is fit to have a wife and raise children from the way he speaks. But that's just my opinion from the little I've seen him write. Then again, I don't know Kadhiya so I may be wrong.
Keshi, Rayray, thumbs up to you. |
KURAL
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25 Jul 2005 10:42:09 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kadiya,
what lyer are you ??
You don't need to read book about the west, because YOU LIVE THERE !!!!
KEEP YOUR READING.. |
sk63
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25 Jul 2005 14:17:03 GMT Report for Abuse
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Rayray,
compliments for a well thought out and structured arguement.
I agree we are losing the plot here. An innocent girl has been killed, parents are devastated and that is tragic. Does not matter the circumstances, such killings (be it a night club related or paddy field related) should be condemned.
I have read many of your posts. You come across as a man with convictions good mind and good thinking. I can not speak for the others but would love to see your contribution in other threads.
Well done lad! |
ohplease
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25 Jul 2005 14:17:15 GMT Report for Abuse
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| The school that the murderer went to must do something. r they doing something about it? Who is the managing the CIS? They should do something about this because more students might cause trouble later |
rayray
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25 Jul 2005 16:11:08 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear SK63,
Thank you for your generous compliments - I too have read your comments - most recently on the behaviour of the well balanced, articulate and law-abiding offspring of the learned Dr Mervyn Silva - and i happen to agree.
Their behaviour goes to prove that there is certain truth in the element of parental control. A well brought up young man - whether he chooses to go to a night club or not - would have been assured of a 'kaney' from his father as a reward for pulling a stunt like that. instead, these boys are protected by their father, thus condoning and encouraging their behaviour. As the saying goes, the apple does not fall far from the tree.
In a forum thats tends to lean towards lopsided, tunnel visioned cat fights its refreshing to have a objective viewpoint. Thankfully yours is not the only one.
by the way, i am actually female |
sk63
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25 Jul 2005 16:22:27 GMT Report for Abuse
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Rayray,
First of all my apologies for the gender confusion. I think it was the Ray part, which is generally a male name, that led me to conclude that you are a guy. The error is regretted.
I am sure you can relate very much to my view point about men and women frequenting night clubs. It is not the night clubs that contribute to violence amongst youngsters, it is the individual. In my opinion and my experience when I ever visited these places as a youngster, they were generally fun places where young men and women have a reasonably good time. May be few drinks, a dance, a joke in good spirit does not make them criminals in my view.
Then of course we have men like Minister?s sons and criminals like the murderer of Yvonne, who as I pointed out, should be in the jungles with monkeys where they belong to. These men think girls go to night clubs to get picked up. They think girls in the night club are frustrated and easy catches! They don?t realize girls also would like to have a social life and would appreciate if they are left alone.
Anyway Rayray, my request to continue with your comments and views still stand. I like the rational way you handle and discuss issues. I am sure I am not alone in this respect.
Well done! |
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25 Jul 2005 18:35:35 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dumindak, thank you, i thank my parents for what they have done for me, i intend on raising my son the same way because i can happily say i have turned out well and happy and my parents are very proud with how i have turned out and at where i am in my life. I do not charge you with obsessive parenting, it is the job of the parents to raise their children well while they are still young enough, but there comes the age where their children start becoming adults when the parents have to back off and let their children learn to fly on their own, that is how we all gain our indipendance, it gives us pride to make our own decisions,if it's a bad decision of course parents need to be close enough to then pull their children back and the let them go again a little further while watching carefully.It is natural to expect a lot from our children but not all children can live upto that and each child is different, some children are very intelligent and go on to become scientists and doctors, some are more artistic and while they dont make as much money as a say a scientist does, they are happy doing what they do and thats the important thing, my son is still small and i hope one day that he will do a prominent job that earns the respect of the people he meets but i also know that if he becomes a musician or a tv repair man one day i would be very happy for him as long as it's the job he's happy with, because even though he didnt live up to my dreams he still lived up to his, nothing in the world would give me more happiness than seeing my child happy with the way his life has turned out, it's when they are happy that they thank you for giving them life, and what can be better than that for a mother? the only thing i would insist on 100% is that he be honest and hard working, and that he one day treats his wife and children with respect and understanding, he will get a good kanay on the ear from me if i see him mistreating any of them.
now kadiya, it's none of your damned business whether i'm a virgin or not but just to wipe that smug know it all look on your face i will tell you... NO! i dont just think it's not there, i know it's not there, you wanna know why? because i have been married for 5 years and if i was still a virgin my husband would have divorced me by now, oh that and i also have a son, you have one of those without having sex you know..., i'm not trying to teach you moral values but i think i know more about having a proper balance because i have lived it and you seem to be completely on one end of the spectrum.. oh and i am 25 years old, may not seem that old to you and yet i get the distinct impression that i have experienced more of what life has to offer that you have,if you consider murderers innocent boys then i dont know what you would consider an 'uninnocent' boy, please for the sake of the girls in the world i hope you dont have any 'innocent' male offspring in the world, your poor girls must have to go through hell being the guilty party all the time, it's people like you who make excuses for the guilty men and that is the reason they really believe they can do whatever they want and get away with it, and you wont see me by any roadside cos i have taken my western attitudes, married a good man who believes i am very much his equal and moved to a western country.
your attitude towards women who go to night clubs is very wrong, some men and women can go wrong, true, shramantha is a good example but that has a lot to do with all the factors in his life leading up to him murdering the girl, not just because he went to a night club, the truth is almost all the people who pass their weekends at the club continue to live highly productive, wonderful lives without harming anyone.
reading books to understand western culture is not enough to consider yourself a master on the topic, from the way you talk about it you obviously dont know that much, each culture has it's good and bad points, while you continue to bash the way people like me were raised you also mention on the first page that american way of living,america way of getting killed... (i didnt know people planned out which countries way of getting killed they would prefer,) you couldnt have possible have written this with a straight face, are you trying to say that only westerners get killed? you are obviously either sinhalese or tamil so what you forgotten the 50 year long conflict that sinhalese and tamils have been going through? the torture, the rape? innocent children murdered? is that then the eastern sri lankan way of killing? and getting killed? if you ask any women they would rather get their arm cut off without any medication than get raped, but poor women in sri lanka without any voice esp in rural villages get raped by disgusting men, and i can bet money neither those men or women have ever set foot into a nightclub, gone to international schools or sometimes even been to colombo! so be realistic next time you want to say something. Although as much as i disagree with you i have to agree too, sri lanka does have a problem with their alcohol laws, if you have money they will sell liquor to you whether your a minor or not, bars and clubs always notice the big spenders and concentrate only on them, it was very hard for someone like me to get service from the waiters because i would stop after two or three coctails (because i didnt believe in getting out of control drunk and i never have) and in a packed night club 2 coctails is like asking for a light, your forgotten right after, selling liquor to minors is not only a problem for your well cultured sinhalese and tamil youth, it's also a problem for our well cultured burgher and muslim youth too, in other words all underage youth,so forget about your favourite ethnicities,that is not the issue. Also women dont go to nightclubs to get picked up, prostitutes do and sorry to dissapoint you but not all women are prostitues,i would have men coming up to me and trying to dance with me in nightclubs and when i told them to get lost they would try to threaten me telling me that i dont know who they are, who the hell cares? they think women are automaticall interested because they have a thick gold bracelet on (which is just ugly), 2 out of a hundred women in there are willing to encourage unwanted attention, while 50 in a 100 men are giving out unwanted attention, they go to get some, not women,i go to dance with my friends, hang out with my group of friends that i have had for a long time,have a good laugh and come home, not to meet men,(men would still approach me when i was right next to my husband,) it's sad to say but most girls cant even smile at a man because he automatically assumes it's a green light to try to pick her up, i have perfected the 'angry' look when i walk around so most men wouldnt dare come up to me and try anything, i have had a number of men thrown out of nightclubs because they would keep trying to rub up against me or my female friends, i even stopped going for a while because i couldnt go have a good time wthout some man trying his luck, i just got tired and disgusted because that is not the reason i go there and a lot of other women for that matter.
rayray said it well, underage drinking, drub abuse and youth violence have to be dealt with, shramantha obviousley had an anger problem but the problem with most parents today is that they think everything their child goes through is just a phase and will pass, only when that child does something drastic like this do they stand up and take notice, a little too late for shramantha's parents but not too late for the parents who can learn something from this, if your child has an anger problem or seems depressed get help from a doctor, a trained professional who can hep before your son or daughter does something bad to himself or to someone else, it just might be a phase that they are going through and might dissapear eventually but the chances of that happening without guidance from a parent as well as a professional is very unlikely, help your children, dont leave them to deal with it themselves because most of them dont know how to, uncontrollable anger is a major problem, not something normal that some people just have.
keshi thank you very much for standing up for me, i'm getting a little wary trying to keep up with the varied views on this panel, it's so frustrating to realise that people are still so ignorant on 2005, you, rayray, sk63 and courtjester seem to be the more sensible people on this panel. |
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26 Jul 2005 02:43:42 GMT Report for Abuse
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Courtjester thanks and I whole-heartedly agree with you about Kadiya. He's just a frog in the well and in a very deep one too.
Socialite that's a brilliant post - well-done! I feel you're truly blessed with a good conscience and superb balance in your thinking. That's really hard to find and it proved to be harder after reading some morons' comments here. But I'm glad that smart and open-minded people like you,rayray,courtjester,wacko and sk63 are around - boy am I not stoked about that! :)
Ohplease stated:
-The school that the murderer went to must do something. r -they doing something about it? Who is the managing the -CIS? They should do something about this because more -students might cause trouble later
I could only say 'OH PLEASSSSSSSSSSSSSSE!' to you mate.
Kadiya stated:
-Ms. Kashi I do care ladies and give my due respect, but -not for night club women who dragged out of the gutters -to become ladies. No way.
-Girls from respectable and good cultured families never -spend their nights in night clubs.
-'Respectable and good cultured families' dose not mean -rich families.
-Bad habits are like chains that are too light to feel -until they are too heavy to carry.
-Warren Buffet
Kadiya I find your English revolting! Sorry but before you whisper these heavy quotes, I would like to know if you really understand them? And who said respectable and good cultured families mean RICH families?? You simply don't get anything that me or socialite are trying to say...oh just forget it!
Kadiya also stated:
-Kashi, I discussed the issue not the person. I never -mention her name ?Yvonne?.
-Got the point?
-As a man grows older it is harder and harder to frighten -him.
-Jean Paul Richter
Kadiya, could you atleast get my ID right? It's KESHI, not Kashi! For Christ's sake this issue is based upon a PERSON called Yvonne! Basically there is no issue without persons??!! Whether you mentioned her name or not, IT IS ABOUT HER DEATH! Get that point Mr.Wise-man? No doubt you are OLD and may be hard to frighten (in your dreams perhaps), but sadly you are cranium-deprived too, sorry mate but you are!
Keshi. |
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27 Jul 2005 10:51:09 GMT Report for Abuse
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If the suspect, Shranatha be guilty in killing Yvonne, he should be punished in public...like stone to death by public (should include Yvonne's family members and friends)or be hanged in public.and media...sri lanka should have very strict rules for this type of innacent killings..and murders...probably Shrmantha's family already bribed the police and other regulatory staff to safe guard their son.
Let us see what will happen on 1st of August....
Shramantha has to suffer before he dies within this life..he should suffer a lot before he die... |
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