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920 Tamils arrested in major cordon, search operation in Colombo
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nada
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1 Jan 2006 22:41:59 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Hi Bicubic,

I refer to your query about the feelings of Sinhalese and Tamils toward the LTTE.

Hope you won't disagree that Tamils were at the receiving end from the Sinhala racialism initially in the form of Sinhala only bill and many other manifestations including government sponsored colonization in the Tamil areas with the exclusive aim of changing the demographic pattern and to break up contiguous Tamil areas.

Then from 56 there was organized physical violence against the Tamils to break them morally , economically, professionally and to subdue them totally. It was indeed a fun for the Sinhalese thugs to assault, burn and kill Tamils in front of the army and police.

Democratic Tamil leaders were stripped and chased away by thugs in Galle Face in front of the Parliament, the shrine of SL democracy. Until 1983 Tamils were only at the receiving end. No attempt to solve any ethnic problem. Even some of the accords were intended to cheat the Tamils.

Bicubic, as a normal human being how would you have responded under similar situation? Either succumb and fall at the feet of the Sinhalese for their mercy and to live on what they throw at you or fight back. History in many countries had shown that rarely people fell at the opponents' feet.

An army, a military arm for the Tamils, became an inevitable option. Because the SL army is really a Sinhala army and they are responsible for most of the evils against the Tamils. They watched and encouraged while thugs assaulted, raped, burned and murdered Tamils. Military itself was involved in the killings, especially in the Tamil areas.

How could you say that LTTE killed innocent Sinhalese, children and women? Long before, the Military was killing many many Tamils, children and women but most of these were not published because all the mass media belong to the Sinhalese. I can see how effective the blockade is and I am sure you too are not aware of those savagery by the military. Even Temples and schools were bombed. Even otherwise Sinhalese brushed it off as false propaganda or who cares what happens to Tamil ba...ds!

So any normal Tamil with self respect was pushed to a situation to support the LTTE more for its military strength than its political acumen. They felt that is the only way to stop the violence against them.

In fact it worked. When a Tamil girl was raped and murdered and dumped into a well (are you aware of that?) recently in Jaffna, soon there was a reprisal attack. Even if there is a race riot in the south like in 83 many believe that Sinhalese too has to face the music in return, if not more at least with the same intensity, tit for tat, a balance of military power.

There is really no SL military, it is in fact a Sinhala military to care for the well being of the Sinhalese and hence the LTTE for the Tamils.

contd........
nada
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1 Jan 2006 23:11:37 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Contd...Bicubic,

President went to India recently, and he met the Indian PM who is a minority, then the President who is a minority and more importantly a Muslim. India is the only Hindu nation in the world with more than one billion people. Can any one believe that there is a Muslim President? Can this happen in a Muslim country where a non-Muslim could even become a minister? How about SL? Can there be a Tamil to be the President or the PM?

In 1977 when Amirtalingam became the opposition leader, JR put tremendous pressure on him and even offered various incentives to give up the post. Amirthalingam, leader of the opposition, was assaulted by a policeman in Jaffna in 1977 in front of senior officers. What was the punishment? Promotion and transfer out of Jaffna, in fact 'double promotion' for him. When this issue was raised in the parliament JR said that he could not do anything to the policeman as it would cause repercussion!Why because Amirthalingam was a Tamil!!!!

Bicubic, hope you get the message why the Tamils support the LTTE? You guys are responsible for this attitude and Tamils were forced to support the LTTE. The reluctance on the part of the LTTE to accept any offer is based on these historic experiences of deception.

You talk of prominent Tamils and quote Kadir, Sangaree and Douglas to name a few. For whom they are prominent, for the Tamils or the Sinhalese, certainly not for the Tamils. These guys belong to the second category I have mentioned, who fall at the feet of the Sinhalese and accept whatever thrown at them.

My friend, do you think when thinks are normal or if not for the LTTE problem, Douglas would have become a minister, please anwer me frankly. Of course his caliber fits into the caliber of the vast majority of the so-called minsiters in SL parliament. Hope you saw the video clip on the 'parliamentary language'. Don't you think the time is ripe to remove the word 'unparliamentary language' from our dictionaries?

My dear friend, what I say is certainly not racialism, it is just the reality, the mind set, the frustration of every Tamil for what they have faced over the past.

But of course for the Sinhalese, LTTE or any Tamil who talk of their rights are terrorists or what ever they call them according to their up bringing and education, but no one cares. Tamils have seen the worst so nothing matters.

On the other hand the Tamils consider the military as their enemy because they act against them and it is not a national army representing and protecting all the citizens but instead only the Sinhalese.

Until and unless there is an acceptable solution this state of mind will continue on both sides of the fence.

Regards
dravid
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2 Jan 2006 03:05:05 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Indeed Nada is correct, India is a multicultural, it did have ethnic rifts in teh apst and it partially does so in the present yet it has a muslim tamil, former scientist as a president, a sikh economist as prime minister, and a partially italian lady pulling the strings!
Whereas in SL the ethnicities are much more polarized...
dravid
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2 Jan 2006 04:01:18 GMT  Report for Abuse   
ROFLMAO
Karthika what you just posted has no relevance to the topic or is structure to be meaningful in anyway, you sound like those conspiracy theorists.You make me laugh so much ROFLMAO

It is of my opinion that you just started getting juiced, most people got juiced for new years celebration the day ahead, you seem to be getting juiced for fun right now?
Gaja
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2 Jan 2006 05:00:43 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Thank you BICUBIC for the response.

Does it matter to you as to whether the Tigers have massive support or significant support? If yes, why?

If Tigers are not the representatives of Tamils in Peace Negotiations, why are they included by your government? Once your government accepted the Tigers - all other opinions, including those of Tamils, become secondary.

If you seek to KNOW and UNDERSTAND intellectually - then you have to do the work from zero base.

If you seek to connect to Tamils and FEEL the Truth - then you need to trust us and have faith in us - without seeking logical explanations. This is the privilege you enjoy in your cultural circles. YOu need to respect your parallels in the Tamil community to feel our Truth.

As for being fearful of the gun, as a Tamil who is critical of the Tigers, I assure you that I have never feared their gun. Some of them fear my writing power - but no - I do not fear their gun. Typically, you have generalised on the basis of Burghers in our Tamils community.

I notice that you have thanked Nada and not me. In the absence of a reason given my you, I conclude it's because he is a man and I am a woman.

love
gaja
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2 Jan 2006 05:05:26 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Thank you Vinivida for your response.

Investors who are genuine will reap their rightful results. It's our duty to ensure that they do. I for one will do all within my power to ensure that they do.

In terms of non-violent ways, if you read carefully, you will know that I have always promoted non-violent 'intellectual' ways to develop Peace in Sri Lanka. Some of it is through the Tigers. You are just seeking to be blind to these aspects of the Tigers. Hence you are getting war - the reward for your own behaviour.

love
gaja
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2 Jan 2006 05:15:29 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Thank you Popeye for your response and wishes.

A genuine Tamil would say about the LTTE, most of what you have said about the JVP. Majority tend to 'see' and 'believe'. They are entitled to do this so long as they do not take up higher positions to criticize their governments.

Tigers have made the Tamil society flatter than it was prior to their birth. They have used violence in the process and I feel that they feel this was necessary. To the extent they genuinely felt so - they were not wrong.

I do not blame them for seeking to be like JVP. In both instances the government was too remote from the people and hence the rule of the gun.

I do not actively seek Equal Footing. I actively seek MERIT base - at the individual level for the Public Administrator and at the collective level for Tamils, Muslims and Sinhalese.

love
gaja
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2 Jan 2006 05:22:00 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Thank you Fairplay for your response.

I agree with you about the JVP sleeper-cells.

The Sinhalese have set the standards through the JVP and hence their hands are tied in matters of rebellion against the government. The have to resort to the ordinary criminal law in the use of which their authorities seem to be inefficient. Tamils ought not to be asked to pay the price for this inefficiency. If anything that belongs mainly to the majority Sinhalese whom all other minorities have been subsidising. We pay taxes to have Common standards.

love
gaja
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2 Jan 2006 05:35:52 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Nada,

When we look at a disease we tend to take conventional approach most of the time because it had been proven effective. How ever there are novel treatment or an approach too which could be more effective, efficient ,or the patient tolerate it better. How ever the cause and effect concept remains the same.

The presence of 50,000 GOSL troops in Jaffna is a result of the vicious cycle of choosing the wrong treatment as the results showed looking back retrospectively.
The conventional approach to the cause by LTTE unfortunately did not bring the results expected but now the Tamil Diaspora has to deal with the side effects of the treatment.

I wish you and your Family a very happy new year!
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