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Sri Lanka president-elect drops running mate from prime minister job
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Pera
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 19 Nov 2005 13:48:20 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mr Christy,
FYI, I do not HATE anyone. I am a Buddhist. Hating anyone is not good for my health too.
I should say that I do not like Ranil. I do not like him very very strongly. (I have my own reasons for that).
I preferred Mahinda over Ranil for the presidency. That is within my constitutional and political rights.
You say 'unfortunately PERA is right' . Yes, I am right. It has nothing to do with the fortune. I am a scientist and trained to make 'inferences' according to the'Observations' I made and 'data' I get.
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Christy
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 19 Nov 2005 13:52:25 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear Pera,
I am sorry if I had offended you by saying you hated Ranil. No offence meant and I have corrected my posting.
Secondly I did not mean that unfortunately you were right. What I meant was that 'it was an unfortunate truth'.
I have corrected that too.
I beg your pardon. Exteremly sorry.
I fully respect your right of choice and opinion.
Christy
Edited By - Christy - 19 Nov 2005 14:01:49 GMT |
muniraj16
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 19 Nov 2005 13:55:01 GMT Report for Abuse
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Hey still the UNP goons are crying in desparation ...ha???true...its very sad...but we asked you UNPers not to keep any hopes on P.ranil...its really pathetic that you didn't listen...now pay the prize...heheheheh
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 19 Nov 2005 14:01:55 GMT Report for Abuse
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This is why I think UNP lost.
People in SL considers Ranil to be a Colombo 7 posh man (even though he is only Colombo 3 man). Over years, Sri Lankans have developed a hatred towards Posh, highly westernised (or apparently westernised) people. They may have their own reasons for that.
Ranil's personality also did not help. He comes out as a westernised man in the Sri Lankan politics and so are his close friends such as Mr. Moragoda.
Mr. Rajapakse comes as a 'Game Miniha'. That has a huge appeal in Sri lanka. Whether the mass appeal will move the country forward, whether the local appeal is good enough in the international politics, whether the supporters/advisors/consultants around mahinda with locally made solutions etc is yet to be soon.
UNP will probably have to reconsider if Ranil should remain at the helm.
Edited By - sk63 - 19 Nov 2005 14:02:28 GMT |
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19 Nov 2005 14:03:17 GMT Report for Abuse
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The real outcome of the election results...
-P.ranil-got defeated
-Federal solution-got defeated
-LTTE butchers -got defeated
-Thonda/hakeem/rev.Uduwe-got defeated
-CBK/Anura-got defeated
-Chandrasekaran/manoganeshan -got defeated
-LalithK/rev.Oswald Gomes-got defeated
-Sirasa/EAP/TNL/Leader media-got defeated
-Black money/NGOs and foreign influences-got defeated
NATIONAL PATRIOTIC MOVEMENTS WERE VICTORIOUS...
VICTORY TO THE MOTHERLAND...
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19 Nov 2005 14:08:41 GMT Report for Abuse
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Muniraj16,
UNP'ers are not going to pay the price. Except for the UNP politicians who were dreming about ministerial positions, others' life will go on.
It is the country and the poor 'game miniha' who voted for Mahinda is going to pay the price.
I agree its too early to predict. Its just my opinion and I have a right to have one.
Thanks
Edited By - Christy - 19 Nov 2005 14:09:54 GMT |
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 19 Nov 2005 14:10:10 GMT Report for Abuse
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John54:
If Mahinda's survival instincts are as good as I think they are, he will distance Mangala and to some extent the JVP. Both were very opportunistic, they had no other option but to support him. Mangala was with CBK and against him until the last minute before switching sides. Everyone who was licking after CBK is now licking after Mahinda now; SL politics in a nutshell.
My personal view about the UNP and some will disagree with me I am sure. There soft-soft approach is a mistake in SL, in an advanced country it would have worked. They should appoint young Premadasa as the leader and obstruct Mahinda at every opportunity from day one, using all the resources at their disposal especially the foreign donors whose aid we expect as a god given right but don't want to acknowledge. Sort of what Mahinda and the JVP did to Ranil but with interest; give a dose of their own medicine. I guess Ranil in the end was doing the proverbial 'throwing pearls before swine' and some wouldn't know it even if it hit them on the head!
Ranil or Mahinda war is inevitable. LTTE needs war to survive, if his fighters get used to peace it will be difficult to go back to war and that's the end of Praba. The truth is neither Ranil nor Prabakeran was sincere about federalism. Ranil was using it to trap Prabakaran in a long drawn peace process and weaken him gradually, but he had to display his hand due to the mauling he was getting in the south as a traitor, hence Prabakaran's boycott. There is a lot of name calling of Prabakaran, that is the usual human reaction when a man cant be put down easily by his enemies, make no mistake Prabakaran is one very smart cookie and ironically the only southern politician equal to him was Ranil. Call him what you may, Ranil is a student of history, there was a similar insurgency in Malaysia by the communists, it took years for the British to overcome it, it's a good lesson to study the tactics that were used.
I hope I am wrong and wish I could share your optimism, but I have a sense of foreboding; impending doom about it. When a man uses lies, deception, trickery etc to gain high office the start is wrong and it's nothing but downhill from there. I don't think we'll have to wait long, six months will suffice. For once I hope I am wrong.
Edited By - hellogoodbye - 19 Nov 2005 14:17:29 G |
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 19 Nov 2005 16:44:00 GMT Report for Abuse
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Well i personally feel that comming from Fernandopulle, the statement might not be that definite.
even if it goes to someone other than Anura, my guess would me Maithreepala Sirisena or perhaps DM Jayaratne as rumored.
For those of you who think banda's are gone.
think again.
and..
this conversation seems to be more focused on thorwing mud at one another than what the actual subject was about.
there is no point arguing about it, LTTE chose the leader of this country and their choice was Mahinda.
whats there to argue?
it's a pity when all those LTTE supporters in this forum and the mahinda supporters go at against each other. dont you realize you are on the same side? mahinda won with the support of extremists of all sides.
so unite and party for crying out loud.
one of Mahinda's policies was to abolish the exuctive presidency. so technically he should be the PM.
one thing is for sure, the promises cant be given, if he gives the promises the economy will crumble with that amount of public spending, and if he doesnt give the promises well you know what that means.
doomed if you do, doomed if you dont.
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 19 Nov 2005 18:40:43 GMT Report for Abuse
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Pera:
I can understand how your judgement is clouded because of the recent 'So called' victory.
As for My facts and figures - i was partially wrong and partially right. Yes the southern electorate was not fully convinced by facts and figures. HOwever, If the Tamils in the NOrth were allowed to vote Ranil would have won!! So a majority of the country did accept my facts and figures.
U really think this was a victory??? It is a vicotry if you consider the North and East a SEPERATE state. If that is the case then i agree with you - Mahinda WON.
Comapre the results with the 2004 elections. THe Ranil gained on EVERY district. You calimed that Mahinda will win Kandy. He LOST EVERY SINGLE ELECTORATE! most of the JHU vote Came back to the UNP.
In 2004 the UPFA won the election with a majority of 700,000 votes. This time difference between Ranil and Mahinda was 180,000 votes (and thats with the support of the JHU). The Number of votes the LTTE deprived Ranil was between 500,000 to 600,000... :) :) :) THATS THE ONLY REASON MAHINDA WON....SO pera i think my analysis was pretty good. The only thing i miscalculated was the EXTENT TO which the LTTE went to support Mahinda. Even you refused to believe that when i kept saying that.
You were correct upto a certain extent - THe southern electorate is foolish.
Now Knowing you - you will turn back and say - 'NOne of the matters - Mahinda won' - :) :) am i worng? You are correct.
U can fool the poor village folks over and over and over and over and over and over again..
BUt you know who you cant fool????????????
1. The LTTE :) :)
2. Fundamentals of economics....
U and I might not like Prabakaran but the bottom line is he is a very very smart thug. There is a reason why made Mahinda the President - and you will find out why: real soon (Wink)....
As for Ranil yeah i agree with you and your daughter - he obviously has a HUge problem with image. But the sad part for Mahinda is - Ranil still would have beaten him if there was a FREE and FAIR election ALL OVER the country. What does that Say about your Analysis and Mahinda????? :) :) Not much ehhh.... Mr Bean, Beat the so called 'Ruhunu Putha' in a free and fair elections!Thats of course if you take north east to be a part of Srilanka you do right??? :) :)
As far as im concerned - Mahinda did NOT win this election. There is nothing anyone can do about it right now, but he did NOT win this elections. I have nothing personal against him. He does NOT have the IQ to lead a nation. I have no doubt with in the next year, it will become clear to all. The election results show the country is HEAVILY porlalized and devided. You need a president who can appeal to all communities and Mahinda is not that Man. Another way of looking at this is - A majority of the People DId not elect Mahinda. THe LTTE installed a puppet, they want... Did i not tell you this election is in the hands of ONE MAN in Killinochichi???? THe LTTE has ELECTED the Person that will be most favorable them. The LTTE has elected the Person who will mess up the country the most - economically, ethnically, politicall and internationally.
Of course i dont accept you to agree with me on any of these right now. NOT YET but you will see very very soon.
:) :)
Cheers
Edited By - anizam - 19 Nov 2005 20:13:22 GMT |
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 19 Nov 2005 20:12:40 GMT Report for Abuse
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YOU GUYS PLEASE STOP THIS SQUABBLING! THE NEW PRESIDENT HAS JUST SWORN IN, YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO DIVIDE AMONG YOURSELVES. A DEEPLY DIVIDED OPINION IS LIKE AN INFORMAL DIVISION OF THE COUNTRY!
EVEN IF NO ONE HAS VOTED FOR HIM, MAHINDA HAS BEEN SWORN IN AS PRESIDENT.ONCE IT HAS BEEN DONE THERE IS NO WAY BACK. IF YOU GUYS BELIEVE IN 'IRANAMA' THIS IS IT, MAHINDA IS DESTINED TO BECOME THE PRESIDENT OF SRI LANKA!
THE QUESTION IS WHETHER HE CAN OR CANNOT DELIVER, RATHER HE SHOULD! A LEADER DOES NOT HAVE TO HANG ON TO HIS POLICIES 100%. HE CAN BE FLEXIBLE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNTRY.
I CAN BET MAHINDA WILL APPOINT ANURA AS THE PRIME MINISTER. THOUGH A BETTER OPTION WOULD BE RANIL BUT MANY PEOPLE AROUND MAHINDA WILL OPPOSE THAT! BUT IT WILL BE AVERY GOOD COMBINATION ESPECIALLY BECAUSE, RANIL AND MAHINDA ARE NOT RACISTS.
PRABHAKARAN SENSED AMONG OTHER THINGS, A UNION OF UNP AND SLFP AFTER A RANIL VICTORY, SO HIS DECISION TO FORCE TAMILS NOT TO VOTE. IF A UNP SLFP UNION HAD HAPPENED LIFE WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY DIFFICULT FOR PRABHA. I THINK THE CONSTITUTION SHOULD BE AMENDED TO MAKE WAY FOR THE LOSING CANDIDATE TO BECOME PRIME MINISTER, SO THE SERVICES OF A TALENTED AND HIGHLY EXPERIENCED PERSON LIKE RANIL WILL NOT GO TO WASTE. NOT ONLY THAT, THE LTTE MACHINATIONS TOO WILL BE NEUTRALISED!
WHAT DO YOU THINK?! |
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