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Sri Lanka president-elect drops running mate from prime minister job
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Gaja Senior Member
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19 Nov 2005 20:32:44 GMT Report for Abuse
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Thank you OOPSE for responding.
You say that I am 'mad' if I think that you do not like me because I am a Tamil.
As per the system of Democracy, we have to be objective and therefore limit our base to the particular matter being discussed. In this instance it is my style of communication.
You did not give any OBJECTIVE reason about the quality of my communication. You just said that you found it boring and did not want to read it. There are many others in this forum who do respond to my contributions but would not be reading some parts. I do not read all the positings of even my favourites. If I did, I would miss out on the thoughts of others, including yourself. When I interact with people like you - meaning who you are to me right now, it is based largely on the Objective reasons of the matter - meaning the 'seen' and the 'logic'. Beyond that it becomes 'subjective' and unless we know each other's personal history, we would bring into it the discussion 'qualities' we attribute to the respective group that the other belongs to. In this instance the ethnic group that you and I belong to.
As for your suggestion that I see a psychiatrist, if you had read my previous posts you would have known that I am suing a Magistrate on the basis of Race based discrimination for 'taking a shortcut' in the process of the law, by sending me to a psychiatrist. The first one I was sent to declared that I was following in the path of Gandhi. This was said on 01 November 2004, the same day the Daily News in Sri Lanka published my response to Justice Weeramantri, about Gandhi and Ahimsa. But a Sri Lankan (Sinhalese doctor - Dr.Sumanathissa) upheld the second magistate's verdict that I needed psychiatric help. Dr.Thissa first declared that I was 'normal'. But under pressure from his Australian supervisor - he changed the verdict. I have complained against him to the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission who are investigating the matter.
Had you and I been discussing matters in a formal forum and had you said what you said to me I would have had the right in any International forum to complain against you for race based discrimination.
If you are subjective and you fail to give the reason what that subjective base was, the base that I feel is the reason is the valid reason, unless I am proven to be an unreliable person.
The response from other members of this forum shows that I am not an unreliable person. Hence unless YOU tell us the subjective base you used, I am entitled to conclude as per my investment in being a Sri Lankan.
I am Sri Lankan to a Sri Lankan and Tamil to a Sinhalese. If you had treated me as a fellow Sri Lankan, you would have said sorry when you knew I was upset by your remarks - as other Tamils did in the forum.
It does not matter which one you are - Sri Lankan or Sinhalese. Just hold that position with dignity. As a Sri Lankan - we do not need to show off our victories openly but just reconcile internally often through some other discussion. As a Sinhalese and Tamil we must take up our positions as equal outsiders and not 'tell' each other what to do but just make our observations on what is 'shown' and indicated. You have no right to guess and slander.
Regards
gaja Edited By - Gaja - 19 Nov 2005 20:43:46 GMT |
Gaja Senior Member
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19 Nov 2005 20:57:04 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear OOPSE,
I read also your response to Christy.
I concluded from your posting that you are strongly anti Ranil. It is therefore understandable that you are against people like me who can identify with Ranil.
You say that Ranil cannot identify with the ordinary Sri Lankan - meaning poor Sri Lankan. May be, may be not. Even taking that he cannot, that is not a disqualification for a President. It is for an elected member of parliament. It would become a problem only if Ranil pretends that he does. If Ranil is able to 'include' the needs of the poorer citizen in his thinking, through policies that can be worked by the average Sri Lankan citizen, then he does not need to identify with the poorer citizen. The danger with that kind of identification is that you might stagnate at the lower level because it is the easier way - and keep the country at the lower level with you. As per your description of Mahinda, this is a big risk for him.
Regards
gaja |
Fairplay Senior Member
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19 Nov 2005 21:13:15 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear Ms.Gaja,
Your explanation to OOPSE about the 2 different personalities is commended.
What is striking is that how one's identification with the poor could stagnate the country at that level versus thinking for the poor could elate them although the leader cannot identify himself with them.
There is no doubt that Ranil is a Leader and Mahinda is only occupying the Leaders seat.
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Bonggo Senior Member
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19 Nov 2005 22:14:17 GMT Report for Abuse
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FAIRPLAY: 'Ranil is a leader and Mahinda is only occupying the leader's seat'
This is hitting the nail right on the head. May I also add the neither Ranil nor Mahinda can identfy with the so called 'common man' or ordinary sri lankan citizen or poor man. Both are from eminent political families and grew up with affluence.
Mahinda being a common man was a myth propagated by his campaigners. But Ranil did not do so. It is a sick metality to boast about the 'common man' tag. Only people with an inferiority complex will look up to something like that.
What we need in the 21st century as you said is a 'leader.' Ranil is a leader and a brave on at that. For example he signed the CFA against all odds. He stuck to his policies and did not give up his ideals to come to power. He will not sabotage Mahinda's peace efforts but rather support it.
History will regfard him as a leader who took brave decisions against all odds. Leaders are those who try to differ for the betterment of the country, not those who toe the line! |
Gaja Senior Member
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20 Nov 2005 00:29:32 GMT Report for Abuse
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Thank you Fairplay for your response.
I am happy that you see the value I see in Ranil.
As I have said today in my response to Patrioticson, one who identifies is a feeler. Such a person must strictly base his / her vote on how they FEEL about a person or at least what they DIRECTLY observe. If they do not know the leader directly, then they must vote as per the party representative they directly know. If they do not know any political leader, then the votes of those who have invested in 'issues' get wasted and in fact would be counterproductive because they would dilute the outcomes of the logical thinkers who have consciously and expressly invested in issues - irrespective of the individual.
These thinkers are the ones who connect us to the outside world. They are like our fathers. Ranil was the better person to do this for all Sri Lankans. It is to his credit that he included Tamils in his thinking - through the cease-fire work. That will always be to his credit. Since he included minorities in his thinking, I conclude firmly that he includes the poor in his thinking.
Mahinda on the other hand has not demonstrated that he can rise above his family / electorate pulls. He seems to lack the training to do so. The country would therefore be led at best by the feeling of his electorate and not by the thinking of an intellectual leader. This is alright if that electorate is a highly educated or wise electorate - for their thinking would include others in their decisions and the they would have the confidence to express their feelings in a language that all - including the International community - would understand. It would then be like a family being led by love.
Once we realise love, we would not want to consciously think or express ourselves. We will just want to be in that love. That is why a country led by love would remain at the lower material level. Most of the time, it is not even love. It is pure stretching of the Truth by abusing position power.
I will continue to work through leaders like Ranil when I have to mentally 'vote' on an issue. I know that when I base it on Truth - it will support that person through the Universal energy. I know that Ranil won in real terms. He just needs to realise it himself. That in itself will be the strongest undoing for someone who does not consciously override his physical attachments.
Thank you again for the appreciation
love
gaja |
Gaja Senior Member
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20 Nov 2005 00:39:02 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear Bonggo,
I appreciate your analysis on the two leaders. I however disagree with money being always the factor that influences one's high status - Gandhi being an extreme example of one with high status and very little money.
As per my observations, Ranil is a continuous learner and is ready to take on new and difficult challenges. Mahinda would not. He needs the comfort and security of his own people. He is also not independent of his people. This would lead to lack of investment in activities outside his home zone. Mahinda lacks the International culture that is needed to succeed in today's material world.
Gaja Lakshmi Paramasivam from Australia Edited By - Gaja - 20 Nov 2005 01:31:54 GMT |
muniraj16 Senior Member
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20 Nov 2005 07:27:57 GMT Report for Abuse
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Christy...
yes of course you have a right to have a opinion of your own...but one thing is clear with this election...even with the maximum force(may it be media,religious issues,black money and foreign forces, and all the bunch of promises that he/she gave) that UNP could gather, its not enough to convince the majority of sinhala buddhists population...please don't misunderstand by thinking that i m talking racism here...
UNPers (and most of our past leaders) were only trying to adress the issues faced by the 10%-20% minority by ignoring the majority who are sinhala buddhist...with this election they paid the price for that...with the election results its very clearly shows that each and every seat that P.ranil won was a seat where most of the minorities live...thats because P.ranil was trying to divide the motherland in to pieces, and satisfy all the minorities...and some unseen force didn't allow that to happen...but the sad part is there are still some selfish sinhala buddhists who are unable to understand this, as they seems to become blind when they see some dollars...
but thanks to NATIONAL PATRIOTIC MOVEMENTS, many eyes were opened...just like during the days of the kings...
MAY THE ENERGY OF THE ULTIMATE TRUTH GUIDE OUR NEW PRESIDENT...
chao... |
gasara
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20 Nov 2005 08:18:11 GMT Report for Abuse
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DROP NOT ONLY ANURA B BUT ALSO
2) SARATH AMUNUGAMA
3) SUMEDHA JAYASENA
4) NIMAL SIRIPALA
5) AMARASIRI DODANGODA
6) RATNASIRI WICKREMANAYAKE
7) JEEWAN KUMARANATUNGA
8) PAVITHA WANNIARACHCHI
9) ANURA PIYADHRASHANA YAPA
10)TISSA KARALIYADDA
11)ATHUDA SENEVIRATNE
12)J.BANDARA TENNAKOON
13)PIYASENA GAMAGE
14)S.B.NAVINNA.
MY LIST OF CABINET APPEARS ELSEWHERE. THE REST TO APPOINTED AS DEPUTY MINISTERS. CABINET MEMBERS SHOULD BE LIMITED TO 15.
GASARA |
gasara
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20 Nov 2005 08:26:49 GMT Report for Abuse
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DEAR PIRHANA
SINHALA CHAUVINISM IS OK WHEN YOUR MATES GET HIT IN THE BREAK BASKET AND NEEDS URGENT MEDICAL ATTENTION. IT IS OK FOR YOU TO SEEK FREE HELICOPTER RIDES AND VIP FACILITIES WHEN TRAVELLING ABROAD. IT IS OK FOR KOTIYA B....S TO UTILIZE CHAUVINISTIC MEDICINE AND FOOD SENT FROM SOUTH.
IT IS ALSO OK FOR YOUR PEOPLE TO TRAVEL FREELY IN ANY PART OF THE COUNTRY DO BUSINESS AND HAVE DWELLINGS WHICH IS THE ACCEPTED THING.
YOU ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THRIVING ON PETTY RACISM AND MONEY RECED FROM WASHING BACK SIDES OF COLONIAL MASTERS.
PRABAHA WILL NOT SUCCEED EVEN HIS FATHER RISES FROM GRAVE.
FOR ONE SRI LANKA
GASARA |
kermit
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20 Nov 2005 09:01:33 GMT Report for Abuse
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| The fat bastard will die soon.kadiragamar would have become the prime minister if he was alive. |
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